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 Profile 88?
Author: offblue 
Date:   2012-08-27 02:14

What are your experiences with the Vandoren Profile 88 mouthpieces? Did they help you articulate faster or improve tone?



Post Edited (2012-08-27 02:28)

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 Re: Profile 88?
Author: bethmhil 
Date:   2012-08-27 02:38

You know by now that reeds of the same strength vary-- some are harder & softer than others. Your mouth naturally learns to adjust to each reed to make the most desirable tone. On softer reeds, your lower jaw doesn't push as much so that your tone does not become buzzy & metallic; with harder reeds, your jaw pushes more to get a better response out of the reed. Interestingly, this happens without much conscious thought. If it doesn't, I suggest a lot of long tones. ;)

Anyway, mouthpieces are the same way. I switched last February to the M13 Lyre from a Gennusa. Both are vastly different in sound, response, and shape. Yet, it took me less than 2 weeks before my mouth had fully adjusted to the mouthpiece.

From the sounds of it, you are playing on hard reeds (4's, or 4.5's?), since air is escaping out of the corners of your lips. The M13 Lyre, being a closed, long-faced mouthpiece, indeed calls for harder reeds. But, the thing that helped me is playing on soft(er) reeds during the switch. I used 4's on my Gennusa, but I went down to 3.5's for the M13 Lyre. Having soft(er) reeds helped me learn to adjust to the mouthpiece very quickly and easily, since I wasn't fighting my reeds on top of fighting the mouthpiece.

BMH
Illinois State University, BME and BM Performance

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 Re: Profile 88?
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2012-08-27 08:04

Profile 88 only has to do with the shape of the blank - it has a narrower beak than the traditional Vandoren mouthpieces. Many facings are available in both shapes. It's completely a matter of personal preference. To the extent that you're more comfortable with one shape or the other, the more comfortable one should make playing easier. All you can do is try each and see what you think.

Karl

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 Re: Profile 88?
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2012-08-27 11:34

I played a "duck-bill" Morgan mouthpiece for a while. It felt good, but when I listened to recordings of the quintet I was in, I heard that it lacked color and resonance. When I went back to a standard shape my sound improved, at least partly due to, I think, more room in my mouth, though there were other differences, of course.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Profile 88?
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2012-08-27 18:10

i've got a Zinner blanke and a Vandoren M30/13 with the 88-beak profile. They have both been given Lee Livengood facings, and I play them with a thick rubber cushion on top.

There are subtle differences in the sound, but the 88 gives me no advantages in articulation.

Bob Phillips

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 Re: Profile 88?
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2012-08-27 18:56

Just out of curiosity, have you had anyone else listen to the sound when you play a Profile 88 and a traditional Vandoren? I'd be interested to know if the difference is in the way the sound transfers to your ears through bone conduction (even with the cushion) or if it really carries to a listener over some distance.

Karl

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