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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2012-06-23 07:54
This has nothing to do with batteries or poor grammar... though you might find a lot of the latter throughout the post
I'm referring to the grunt on the clarion A note on Buffet A clarinets, where a lower note will also sound/play at the same time.
In the past I read a lot about this issue but never really noticed it eventhough I've tried so many Buffet A clarinets of all models. I found it a few times but it was a small issue and rare. I thought it might depend on who is playing, the mouthpiece, or that it was a coincidence that the ones I've tried mostly didn't have a problem.
A few days ago a player came to me with a Buffet R13 A clarinet. It had two problems. One was a grunt on the clarion A, the other was a lot of resistance in the upper clarion and also a bit throughout. I could feel the grunt but the resistance in the area was awful and easily found to be from leaks, making the grunt hard to judge.
The player left the clarinet and I fixed the leaks. Then it played fine for me. No grunt on the A at all. The player came to pick it up so to be sure I asked her to try it too. Serious grunt on the A note. I try it again, no grunt. Then I could create the grunt by purposely forcing it, but even then it was smaller than what the other player got.
I ended up trying a few different things and one of them did solve the problem for her. It was interesting how everything being identical, one player got a serious problem of this grunt and another didn't. So it seems that it is only a combination of instrument and player that would create this grunt. I guess it's possible that some clarinets won't have the grunt with any (assuming relatively high level) player and some instruments might even have the grunt with all players. In those cases it seems like it is still the combination that is creating it (or not).
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2012-06-23 12:38
It's completely the Register Tube.
Get a new tube made.
My Prestige A did the same thing, and Mark Jacobi made me a tube.
disclaimer: I distribute Avrahm Galper's Register Key/Tube, which incidentaly Buffet uses a similar design for it's "Vintage" model.
So similar, that I probably could use that register key.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: Chris Hill
Date: 2012-06-23 14:33
I also had the same problem. Mark Jacobi's register tube not only fixed the grunt; it helped the intonation.
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Author: RJShaw0
Date: 2012-06-24 02:23
I had this same problem with my R13 A, fixed it a couple of weeks ago after reading some info off this thread:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=230085&t=230056
I put a pin in the register tube only and that had an immediate effect, not only on A.
G# is more resonant, A doesn't grunt, Bb through to C are all much less resistant.
It's worth trying and takes 10 minutes, if you don't like it, just take the pin out - easy!
Richard
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2012-06-24 03:21
As I said, the problem was solved and yes it was something to do with the register tube causing it. One of the things I tried was the needly pad and in this case it didn't solve the problem (only had a very slight improvement). But the point of the post is to show it depends on the player and instrument combination. Same everything and two different players, one had the grunt and one didn't.
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Author: Wes
Date: 2012-06-24 05:33
Muncy Winds sold me a new A register tube which also solved that problem at a very low cost.
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