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Author: Matt S
Date: 2001-02-27 21:26
Im wondering about mouthpieces like usual. What's the difference between the Polycrystal Pyne and Clarion mpc and the crystal Pomarico? I know the Pomarico is alot more expensive lol. ohh yea does anybody have any comments on the Vandy M13 profile 88? What do you you prefer the M13 in traditional or the M13 in profile 88? thanx alot ya'alls peaceness
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Author: Bart Hendrix
Date: 2001-02-27 22:09
I have a Pyne PolyCrystal which I think is a very good value for the price. It is made of a clear polymer (plastic material) which, I assume is where it gets its name. Although I have not had it long enough to know for sure, I suspect it may not be quite as durable as some other mouthpiece materials. Obviously, there must be advantages to other materials as well or Pyne would be using the same material in their higher priced mouthpieces, too.
I don't have a Pomarico for comparison, but they claim to use an "acoustically superior" material in their crystal. I have seen no mention of exactly what type of crystal it actually is (polymer, glass, mineral or ???). Perhaps someone with further information can enlighten us.
If Pomarico is going to stay in business, they must be offering something more than a name to support the price difference.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-02-27 23:04
The Pyne Clarion mouthpiece is made of a clear plastic. The Pomarico mouthpieces are made of glass, though in serious company you have to call it "crystal." Crystal is much harder than plastic or hard rubber. A plastic or hard rubber mouthpiece put to professional use needs a touch-up from a refacer every year or so. Crystal lasts forever, until you drop it.
Crystal is difficult to make or work with. All glass changes shape as it cools from liquid to solid, so there's a lot more variation in chamber shape than there is with plastic or hard rubber. Also, it's very difficult to reface, and adjusting the baffle is even more difficult.
Good luck.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Riccardo Clerici
Date: 2001-02-28 14:41
Dear Friends, I'm writing to you just to let you know that the material that we use is pure crystal that we take in a city near Florence (Italy). We always want to specify this because "Glass" is the material of the window. The material that we use for the mouthpieces is the best crystal that many factories use for theyr products: ashtray, crystal vase. ( One of the most famous is Swarowsky ). If you have the possibility to compare crystal and polycrystal or hard rubber mouthpiece, you'll easily find the different sonority between these materials.
If you may need other informations, please contact me at my Email address.
Ciao
Riccardo Clerici
Pomarico s.n.c.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2001-02-28 16:54
Thank you, Riccardo, for the information about your well-discussed mouthpieces. Having several older glass mp's, Selmer Clarion, O"Briens and an unmarked, I have concluded that their composition is "high-lead" glass [similar to the well-known Waterford "crystal" table-ware {for optical-brilliance enhancement}] . As such it's density should be high among glasses, and much heavier than the hard rubber or plastic mps [for what influence that may have in regard to playing "feel" and tonality features]. We would welcome any comments you might have in regard to these questions. Thank you, Don
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2001-03-02 15:12
As far as I can tell, the M13 Vandorens don't come with the traditional beak--just the Profile 88. All the American pitch (13 series) Vandorens are listed as Profile 88s.
For just vital statistics, you might try Vandoren's webpage: http://www.vandoren.com/Product/products.htm
That will give you some comparisons to their other mouthpieces. I find the M13 harder to play than the M13Lyre and really prefer the M13Lyre.
For history's sake, the M13 was designed in collaboration with Donald Montanaro (thus the M) of the Philadelphia orchestra. It has a narrow tip opening and a bigger chamber and wider bore than most Vandorens and plays more like the handmade Bays ($200.00) than any of the other Vandorens. It has a long facing and needs harder reeds than the standard B45s or 5RVs. But the altisimo is wonderful with the M13.
I sell these all the time on eBay and have played all the Vandoren mouthpieces except the M15 (newest). But, it's a matter of personal taste. M13s are excellent mouthpieces.
Smiles.
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