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Author: chris moffatt
Date: 2012-04-21 18:07
Depends how they've been treated. Depends on how they were faced to begin with. Over-rated? Yes I think so judging by what I see being asked for them - same for Lelandais MPs. Better than today's MPs? No.
In general the best MP is the one that works best for you together with the reed that works best for you along with the barrel that works best for you together with the clarinet that works best for you. Some MPs work great in one setup and not so great in other setups. I have a selection of modern and not so modern MPs, including some Chedevilles, and a selection of modern and not so modern horns and it's always mix and match time - especially now it's spring and the temps vary widely from day to day. FWIW one of the MPs that works best for me - especially with my oehler horn is a Noblet 3V.
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Author: JHowell
Date: 2012-04-23 00:59
Great ones are not overrated. But there are a lot of bad ones.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2012-04-23 01:49
Two issues make this in many ways a meaningless assessment.
(1) Are you asking about Chedevilles as they played when new or Chedevilles that are now available through auction sites and private sales? We are now decades away from the production of the legendary mouthpieces that people think of when they hear the name. Of the ones available for purchase today, there are probably relatively few that are unchanged - repaired, refaced, etc. - and no way to know how alterations may have affected their playing qualities.
(2) Chedevilles were manufactured to support a fairly specific concept of clarinet sound and response, a concept that seems, in my opinion at least, much less universally admired today than it was 50 or 60 or 70 years ago in the U.S. (I can only refer with any experience to American "schools" of playing - I had never heard a European orchestra or a non-American clarinetist live - not on a recording - until I was into middle age and had been playing for many years. I have little idea what equipment was popular elsewhere or whether Chedeville even made mouthpieces for the German, Austrian, Italian, English or East European markets). There are more divergent approaches to tone and related issues today. Players who are looking for different tone/response characteristics may well prefer other newer mouthpieces, perhaps not finding them "better" so much as simply different in ways they prefer.
Karl
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Author: fernie51296
Date: 2012-04-23 05:14
Exactly how would one describe the sound of a old Great Chedville mouthpiece?
Fernando
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Author: sonicbang
Date: 2012-04-23 17:12
See the description at Gregory Smith's site and Brad Behn's Chedeville-inspired vintage modells. That old Cheds must be a dream to play.
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Author: SteveG_CT
Date: 2012-04-23 18:16
sonicbang wrote:
> See the description at Gregory Smith's site and Brad Behn's
> Chedeville-inspired vintage modells. That old Cheds must be a
> dream to play.
Keep in mind that both of those gentlemen are trying to sell you something. I've played a couple of vintage Chedeville mouthpieces and wasn't particularly impressed. As others have said the ones that have good facings may play great but there are a whole lot of them out there with less than good facings. Unfortunately it seems many people have become so enamored with the name that even lousy playing examples sell for hundreds of dollars.
Personally I believe a well made modern mouthpiece will play just as well if not better than the best of the vintage models.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2012-04-23 20:31
SteveG_CT wrote:
> Unfortunately it seems many people have become so enamored with
> the name that even lousy playing examples sell for hundreds of
> dollars.
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This was true even 40 years ago.
Karl
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Author: Bill
Date: 2012-04-23 23:33
Narrow windway, deep baffle. Excellent post by Karl!!!
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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