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Author: DerkaDerb
Date: 2012-04-09 02:07
I looking for the four rags for two jons as performed by John Novacek and Jon Manasse. Anyone know where I can find a published version and order sheet music for clarinet and piano?
Or does anyone know Novacek's email so I can ask?
Thanks, would appreciate any help. Love the piece and really want to play it
Post Edited (2012-04-09 02:10)
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2012-04-09 02:45
When Manasse and Nakamatsu premiered the piece in Charlottesville (one night before they did so in Washington DC) he [Manasse] said that he had been hounding Novack to arrange the piece from it's original violin version.
I don't know if the original version was ever published, and I don't know how Manasse/Nakamatsu's version differs from the original.
I'm looking forward to hearing it again myself in a couple of weeks!
James
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Author: DerkaDerb
Date: 2012-04-09 04:57
Well, I'm definitely looking for this arranged clarinet/piano version. If anyone knows, please post in this thread.
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2012-04-09 12:11
You'd probably save yourself a lot of time by emailing Novacek or Manasse directly. If unpublished Novacek might make it available, but it's certainly possible that Manasse has the performing rights.
James
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Author: TheGreekDon09
Date: 2012-04-09 12:37
They performed the duo in Dallas with Chamber Music International a while back and I asked Mr. Manasse afterwards about a publication. He said that he did believe it to in published form and to contact Novacek. I did just that but received no reply.
I enjoy listening to the rags on my iPhone.
Happy hunting.
-Bb
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Author: DerkaDerb
Date: 2012-04-09 14:11
What is Novacek's email?
Manasse doesn't respond to any emails as far as i know.
Post Edited (2012-04-09 14:48)
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2012-04-12 02:31
Is Novacek in residence at some university or associated with an orchestra? That would be my next suggestion.
James
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Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2014-04-25 05:12
In it's original violin version, was the piece titled similarly? I ask because of the fact that three musicians involved here are all named John (even though Jon Manasse has no "h" in his first name): the composer Novacek, Manasse's pianist partner Nakamatsu, and of course Manasse himself.
Post Edited (2014-04-25 06:18)
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Author: Claron
Date: 2014-04-25 05:26
Yes, I meant John Novacek. And with Jon Manasse typo occurred. I'm interested in the option for clarinet and piano.
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Author: Claron
Date: 2014-04-25 05:37
But if there is a version for violin, it is also useful.
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-04-25 06:11
I am curious whether performers feel free to take more liberties with the printed notes (in a big time public performance with critics) with such pieces than they would with say, something by Mozart? I hear a lot of runs and flourishes in the version I sampled on YouTube... were they all precisely scripted?
And if so, why? Would it be more acceptable? Does the music somehow "need" it more? Or let me go the other way- if not... doesn't the jazz/pop style of this properly call for a more flexible (though equally masterful) approach?
Joshua Rifkin recorded the Scott Joplin rags on a big Steinway back in the 1970's. And I noted that, while he followed the printed notes absolutely most of the time- he did some improvising during some repeats. 40 yr later I still don't know how I feel about that, which makes me also a bit of a hypocrite, since the lack of freedom is one of my complaints about classical.
Or am I wrong in believing that Mozart notes are treated as sacred? Never had that kind of training, avoided it actually.
Stan in Orlando
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Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2014-04-25 06:26
Stan: on the Mozart alone I have versions edited by Drucker, Reginald Kell, and others, all with subtle differences on "tongue this, slur this, play this light, play this softer and build up, etc.)--not to mention artist's difference choices for cadenzas.
You can find this too on youtube, watching master classes such legends run.
There is though one truly sacred way pieces like this are played. That's the way I do it, with squeaks, pauses for the doorbel/phone/emails/IMsl, and the dog wanting to come on my lap. ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
Manasse, Frost, Drucker, Morales, et. al. please make a note of that!
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Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2014-04-25 06:27
Stan: on the Mozart alone I have versions edited by Drucker, Reginald Kell, and others, all with subtle differences on "tongue this, slur this, play this light, play this softer and build up, etc.)--not to mention artist's different choices for cadenzas.
You can find this too on youtube, watching master classes such legends run.
There is though one truly sacred way pieces like this are played. That's the way I do it, with squeaks, pauses for the doorbell/phone/emails/IMs, and the dog wanting to come on my lap.
Manasse, Frost, Drucker, Morales, et. al. please make a note of that! ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
Post Edited (2014-04-25 06:29)
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-04-25 19:35
I'm going to move this to a new thread since I kind of started a new subject (sorry, DerkaDerb). And Russ, looks like you have a double post.
BTW, I think the rags referenced here are pretty neat.
Stan in Orlando
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