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Author: beejay
Date: 2011-01-04 22:09
I wonder if anyone has tried the new Vandoren B40 D (for Deutschland) mouthpiece and could give me an appreciation. Although a German model, it is made for Boehm clarinets. I'm interested to know how it differs from the ordinary B40.
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2011-01-05 02:44
I haven't played it, but if it is based on a German system, the reeds are narrower, therefore the rails on the mouthpiece should be closer together to accommodate the German reeds.
Vandoren at one time, many years ago, made German reeds that were the same dimensions as the French cut, but a slightly thicker tip. I can't swear to this, because I didn't know much about measuring reeds back in the early 70's and late 60's. They played pretty well. It would be interesting to find out if Vandoren did make this German B40 MP with closer rails. If so French reeds most likely won't vibrate properly, because the rails of the reeds would be too wide and hang over the MP.
Is there anything on the Vandoren site?
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Post Edited (2011-01-05 03:44)
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2011-01-05 18:50
Vandoren make the White Master and Black Master reeds specifically to work with German/Austrian mouthpices although some players happily use them on Boehm system and especially on the Eb.
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Author: Lam
Date: 2011-01-06 14:08
It seems that Vandoren makes the B40D for the market in Germany, where a growing number of clarinettist there started to use French Facing mouthpiece with French reeds on their German bore instrument. so I think the only difference is the bore diameter and also the Tenon specially suited to the larger tenon diameter of German barrel.
Actually it is a French model, made for german clarinet
From Vandoren website : "A Boehm system mouthpiece specially adapted to the German clarinet
and the “Reform Boehm."
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Author: beejay
Date: 2011-01-06 20:52
LAM is correct - the B40D does use ordinary French reeds, rather than the narrower White Master and Black Master. There is a tiny gap between the mouthpiece and the barrel, but the tuning at 442 on my Buffet Crampon RC is spot on.
At the Vandoren store in Paris a few months ago, the sales assistant included a B40D among a dozen mouthpieces I wanted to try, and I ended up buying it. It seemed to have a more focused sound than any of the others.
Hence my original question. What is the difference between the B40D and the ordinary B40, if any? Has anyone tried both?
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Author: klarinette90
Date: 2012-02-14 00:37
I know German clarinetists like to tie a string around the mouthpiece in place of a ligature. Will a fabric ligature or a medal ligature such as a bonde fit on a German mouthpiece such as the B40D?
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Author: Lam
Date: 2012-02-14 14:46
to klarinette90: The B40D is to be used with a french mouthpiece ligature. a bonade ligature could be fitted on it.
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Author: CocoboloKid
Date: 2012-02-16 23:13
I play a B40D as well, and while I cannot compare it to the B40, as this is the first Vandoren mouthpiece I have ever played, I CAN tell you that it is, as of now, the BEST mouthpiece I have ever played on. The intonation on my Leblanc-Backun horn is SPOT ON, and it plays with the fullest, darkest, most core-laden yet focused and projecting sound you could imagine. I don't imagine I'll be switching it up anytime soon...
You can indeed use any reed or ligature you would normally use, but the Black/White Master reeds or any other narrower German reed will also work on it, as will a string ligature (for which the traditional German-mpc grooves have been incorporated into the design of the mouthpiece).
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Author: NoelH
Date: 2012-02-19 06:41
Having played the B40 and B40D, the biggest difference was that the B40D was far more resistant. After some reed adjustment, I also found that the B40D offered a rounder tone. In general, the B40D tended to be pickier with reeds and often, reeds that responded 'ok' on the B40D played pretty well on the B40 (probably a result of a resistance).
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