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Author: Pheonix158
Date: 2012-01-30 22:38
So i was thinking of buying a new clarinet barrel, and i came across these two.
The Liberty Adjustable Barrel :
http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Barrel-RSBAB-01-Adjustable-Clarinet/dp/B005HO1XB4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327965673&sr=8-1
and the Freedom adjustable barrel
http://www.amazon.com/Freedom-Barrel-FACB-01-Adjustable-Clarinet/dp/B005HO1IQY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1327965673&sr=8-2
ive looked at the two, and they seem almost identical. However, the two have a 20 dollar price difference, so something MUST be different. Could use a little help? thanks
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2012-01-31 00:08
They appear identical on EVERY front; image, description, dimensions, material, seller. Could be simple marketing. See if it sells better at the HIGHER price.
Is there any way we could talk you out of this and into a Fobes, or Muncy instead?
................Paul Aviles
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2012-01-31 01:00
Why do you think you need a new barrel in the first place? What are you trying to accomplish? The answers to those questions will help to decide what barrel, if any, would be an appropriate choice.
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2012-01-31 12:56
Paul Aviles wrote,
>Could be simple marketing. See if it sells better at the HIGHER price.
>
That's an astute observation. When I owned a stained glass design-build-repair sole proprietorship, I griped to my dad that my customers were cheapskates and that my more serious work was a hard sell at craft shows, where I earned most of my money on $12 night-lights that I made from scrap glass. He laughed and said, "If you want the better stuff to sell, double your prices."
It worked.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2012-01-31 14:14
I was looking for a lower-priced spotting scope (optics). Once I dismissed Nikon, Leupold, Vortex and other more expensive brands, the items began to look the same except for the logo..
It turns out that some (NC star brand and . AIM brand is one example someone cited) are made at the same factory with the same design, but offered at a different price .
In musical instruments, this was termed "stenciling"
Sounds like what you are describing.
Disclaimer.....I make and sell barrels......never stenciled.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: SteveG_CT
Date: 2012-01-31 14:37
Your $70-$90 would best be spent elsewhere. I have a couple of vintage tunable barrels of similar design and can assure you that this is one of those ideas that sounds much better on paper than it is in practice. To be honest I never use the tunable barrels because I have found that it is just much easier to pull out the barrel when necessary than to mess around with turning the threaded collar a half dozen times or so to extend the barrel by 1mm.
These are just cylindrical bore barrels so you almost certainly won't gain any advantages over a stock barrel and there is a good chance it may actually make things worse if your stock barrel has a non-cylindrical bore. If pulling out your barrel bothers you that much you are better off investing in a longer stock barrel. If you want are seeking better playing characteristics you are better off contacting a custom barrel maker.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2012-01-31 16:14
According to the packaging material (and the Berkeley website)), the Liberty adjusts from 59-69mm while the Freedom adjusts from 60-70mm. I guess that's the difference. Or maybe Freedom just costs more than Liberty. ![[right]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie8.gif)
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Pheonix158
Date: 2012-01-31 22:31
Thanks for all your help guys. After looking at all your answers, ive decided to scrap both of them. Ive semi-decided to get a Ridenour Ivorlon barrel.
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Author: LJBraaten
Date: 2012-02-01 14:17
...well at least we know now for certain that freedom isn't free.
LJ
Laurie (he/him)
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2012-02-01 14:49
Loved the my Ridenour Ivorolon barrel made on my previous clarinet.
Don't use it anymore now since I now play on a CSG, but if Tom made barrels for the CSG I'd totally try it.
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2012-02-01 22:58
I haven't messed with barrels at all, so I can't say a thing about other brands.
However, I have been using a Moenig for many years, perhaps 30 yrs. or more.
Needless to say I like it and I don't really change my gear very often. Recently I bought 2 new R-13's Bb and A. The buffet barrels were OK at best. When I slapped on the Moenig barrel the sound was a bit darker and warmer the notes tuned very well. My last new horn was about 30 years ago, with the except of Mitchell Lurie giving me a horn when mine were ripped off. That horn is still great, it's from 1975.
The Moenig barrel for some reason works well on both clarinets. I got the 65mm because it tunes well .441. If the orchestras tune to 442 I'd have to use the Buffet barrels.
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