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Author: Ron
Date: 2012-01-26 13:40
Where can spare plastic pins be purchased to have on hand in case the original pin(s) fail? I understand they are difficult to obtain Does anyone have any information regarding this issue?
Addendum: Thanks for all the posts.
Based on most of the posts, it makes sense to take out the original pins and replace them with pins made of stronger material to prevent failure of the nylon.
What is the method for removing the original pin and replacing it with a replacement? Do the original pins simply pop out when pulled? And, do you press in the replacement pin? Is this a job for a skilled repairman or is this a do-it-yourself project?
Thanks.
Ron
Post Edited (2012-01-27 10:34)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-01-26 14:57
If you're having trouble getting them in the US, try Windcraft in the UK https://www.windcraft.co.uk/ (catalogue number WBU1052).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: DougR
Date: 2012-01-26 17:11
See Ken Shaw, above, and a hearty "amen" to his "more than you wanted to know" part.
For what it's worth, I asked my local tech to yank the nylon pins and replace them with steel, which he did for (I think) $25 apiece, which is a modest premium to pay for the certainty that the pins won't break at the worst possible time. (He had to make the pins, so there was some handwork involved.)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2012-01-26 22:07
Geez guys, there is no shortage of TEFLON. Teflon is used in this spot to make the keys fairly quiet without having to regularly stuff this juncture with fish skin.............. to each his own I guess.
.....................Paul Aviles
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2012-01-27 04:20
You mean replace the original nylon (or a broken one) with teflon? Teflon doesn't really glue so is not a great option because of that. Even if you make it a very tight fit it can slide off, and of course it is tricky to be tight all around or glue because you are inserting it into a blind hole.......
I don't see that many broken ones but I still prefer to change them with metal. I use nickel-silver. I use either bladder or sail material (from sail boats), gluing it to the pin with contact glue (which also strengthens it against tearing or falling off). The sail material will probably almost never need replacing.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2012-01-27 06:28
Ok, I'm not the tech that does this so I don't know if the pins are teflon coated or are affixed in some way other than pressure but the Brannens used this method in the 80s so it's not new. I had a tech in Louisville do this a few years ago so it hasn't gone away........and it works. There is no potential for 'loginess' in the keywork this way either.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-01-27 10:34
PTFE or plumbers' tape can be wrapped around metal pins to silence the action and allow it to slide better, but it does crush easily. The pins can be silenced even further still by applying a drop of thick oil to the linkage.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: pewd
Date: 2012-01-27 12:48
I installed Mr. Rice's carbon fiber pins several years ago on one of my instruments - works great!
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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