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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2012-01-14 00:01
Wonderful playing and great conducting. I first heard Rattle doing the "Song of The Night" with Boston well before his Berlin gig - stunning.
These snippets are actually 'commercials' for the Digital-Concert Hall. An interesting way to address the revenue issue in these modern times. It's a WONDER that more orchestras have not picked up on this!
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: Gregory Smith ★2017
Date: 2012-01-14 02:40
Hi, Paul, Sylvain -
The BPO concert hall may be nice to have in order to hear and see/hear them electronically but considering the relatively low number of subscribers to offset costs, sadly, this has not been a good model to grow revenue.
It is wonderful to watch and listen to though!
Gregory Smith
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2012-01-14 03:06
Thanks for sharing. That one player has an interesting trumpet. Wonder if it was custom made? I've always like this great orchestra.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-01-14 06:46
That's a rotary valve trumpet which is standard with German orchestral players (note the vent keys as well) - at least one UK orchestra is now using them.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-01-14 11:48
Just wondering - was Leroy Anderson's "Forgotten Dreans" inspired by the slow movement of Mahler's 6th?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2012-01-14 13:45
Soooooo...........the Chicago Symphony has already looked at this and deemed it would cost more than it would bring in?
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2012-01-14 14:45
Selling subscriptions to digital listeners is just one thing. Creating awareness and conveying a "modern" image are additional benefits which may (or may not) invite people to attend a live performance.
An orchestra should have a mission, it's not just a glorified employment programme...
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Ben
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2012-01-14 14:45
I regularly browse the berlinphil youtube channel, and the more recent recordings especially ones made with Rattle conducting have something a little extra that makes them very excting for me.
I can't point my finger to it, but the entire orchestra seems to be entirely absorbed by the music. They all move together, radiate with energy and passion, even through youtube.
I can't imagine seeing them live.
As for the broadcast, the Berlin Phil is most certainly heavily supported by the German government. Unlike the US model, European countries invest a significant amount of tax dollars into the arts, allowing institutions such as BPO to keep on pushing the envelop and establish new programs such as the Digital Concert Hall.
It may not generate revenue now, but it definitely confirms BPO's status as one of the premier orchestra in the world.
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2012-01-14 15:19
And it appears that they are using French Conservatoire Oboes.
And the Clarinetists no longer use twine to tie their reeds on their Oehlers anymore.
Skyfacer
Post Edited (2012-01-14 15:19)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-01-14 15:38
And French oboes with semi automatic 8ves as well. Although the chap on 2nd is playing a fully automatic oboe.
I wish I hadn't deleted my recording of the BBC Proms concert where they did Brahms 3rd (back in 2008) - the sound was incredible, even in the quiet bits! They are by far my favorite orchestra of all time.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: MarlboroughMan
Date: 2012-01-14 19:40
Barry,
I noticed three different types of ligatures in the clip--what appeared to be a leather strap like a Rovner, a string ligature, and a metal one.
No surprises there: German players have been using all of these varieties for a very long time--and plenty switch back and forth between string and others. Even Karl Baermann mentions the "band with a screw"--which sounds very much like a forerunner to the modern day Rovner-- in Division 1 of his Complete Method (c. 1865).
Eric
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Author: A Brady
Date: 2012-01-14 20:58
I was playing a several month run of "West Side Story" at the Schiller Theatre in Berlin back in the 90s, and was able to hear the BPO a couple of times in the Philharmonie (one of the most amazing concert halls in the world, architecturally and acoustically, and "in the round" seating.) One program was all Stravinsky (Pulcinella among others), and the other was Mahler 6th; definitely one of the most beautiful and moving performances I've attended. Bernard Haitink conducted the Mahler, can't remember who led the Stravinsky program, but it was marvelous. One of the all time great ensembles.
AB
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