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Author: hautboy
Date: 2012-01-06 23:46
Hi,
I'm an oboe/english horn player who doubles on clarinet. I have my brother's Buffet Crampon clarinet and I really like it. Unfortunately I lost the Pine mouthpiece that he picked out to go with the instrument. I can't believe I lost it. I may have accidentally switched it with one of the school clarinets a few years ago. Anyhow, I could use some recommendations for a new mouthpiece. The one I have is just a cheap plastic one and there is a small chip on one of the rails. Does anyone have any recommendations for a mouthpiece that would be good for a doubler? Is there one that my help with my high notes? I don't want them to end up sounding too bright, especially since I will be playing in the pit and not playing solos. I want a sound that will blend, not overpower. I am going to be trying mouthpieces this weekend, but I was just looking for suggestions so I have a place to start.
Thanks.
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2012-01-07 01:14
Shoot! Any entry-level student mouthpiece will work. Get yourself a Fobes Debut or Hite Premiere and have at it!
Susan
Post Edited (2012-01-07 19:32)
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Author: sclarinet
Date: 2012-01-07 14:58
You probably will need something medim-medium open to help with high notes. I've helped doublers in the past. I have a couple older cheap Vandorens if you need.
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Author: hautboy
Date: 2012-01-07 18:40
Well, tried a Vandoren M30 with a Mitchell Lurie reed and I liked it. Had a nice sound. Didn't like the other reeds quite as well. May try a few more though.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2012-01-07 18:49
Fobes Debut + Mitchell Lurie reeds are a very good and proven combination.
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Ben
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2012-01-08 18:26
Since you have lots of reed issues with ob/eh i would suggest you buy a legere signature #3 clarinet reed and just look for mouthpiece that suits it.
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-01-08 18:44
Don't go for the "13" Series Vandorens as they will play flat if you're not accustomed to clarinet. The standard series (non "13" Series) will be better in this respect and one with a close tip opening will also make the high notes speak easier.
Try the M13, M15 and 5RV Lyre as well and see how you get on with them in comparison to the M30.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: wrowand
Date: 2012-01-08 18:49
I agree with Chris P about the 13-series. I think they're too flat, especially if you're doubling and have to pick up and play a cold clarinet, you need a mouthpiece/barrel combination that will play comfortably up to pitch.
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Author: alto gether
Date: 2012-01-08 19:55
Is it safe to assume that an oboe blower will have a tight embouchure? Me, I'm a loosenik, and even on alto I'm out of tune, but I intonate contra alto just fine. I'm assuming a doubler coming from double reed would not go well with a student mpc, but that may not be the case at all. An oboeist's comments would be useful.
Once in a repair shop I saw an oboe with sax keywork, made for doublers coming from sax. I wonder how any of them handled the reed?
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Author: hautboy
Date: 2012-01-09 01:20
Yes, being an oboist I have a tight embouchure. Can't stand the student mouthpiece I'm using. I keep squeaking in the upper register. I feel like I'm over blowing or pinching the reed closed even though I try to remain relaxed. In order to get the notes to speak in the upper register I have to play quiet and relax my jaw so much that the tone sags and I sound flat. I think I would prefer a mouthpiece where I could use a firmer embouchure. Intonation is an issue, so I will stay away from mouthpieces that may cause me to sound flat, especially if I have to pick up a cold instrument. Usually I don't have such high clarinet parts for reed 3 and 4, but the parts go up there. Do you think a mouthpiece with a longer facing may help with the upper register for me? Just curious. I'm going to try some more mouthpieces. Oh, and I really don't see the advantage of having an oboe with sax fingering for doublers. The fingering isn't that different, and for me, being an oboe player, that would be weird. Maybe they should make a sax with oboe fingering, lol.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-01-09 03:40
A longer facing, close tip opening mouthpiece should be ideal - you can use harder reeds with these than you would on a mouthpiece with a wide tip opening and short lay.
As for oboe fingered saxes, there was the Heckel-clarina.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: hautboy
Date: 2012-01-10 01:42
So, I called Clark Fobes, and they offer a free debut mouthpiece for teachers so I'm having one sent. I not only want to check them out for me, but it may end up being a good mouthpiece to recommend for my students as well. I can't wait to try it and see what I and my students think. If not for the recommendation of trying this mouthpiece I wouldn't have considered it.
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