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Author: ClarionRegister
Date: 2012-01-01 23:33
So before you here me gripe, I just want to give a quick 'Hello' because this is my first post.
:)
Now, I love playing the clarinet, but I don't like getting up to go do it. Do any of you know what my little quirk might be? Although, once I'm practicing I can keep doing that for hours.
Oh, and, glad to be on The Board.
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2012-01-01 23:41
Inertia.
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: dtiegs
Date: 2012-01-01 23:42
As a teenager myself, I too fall in the deep trench of laziness. Often its either practice or homework... I like to think that practice is much more productive than homework.
I motivate myself. I watch videos of clarinetists, listen to clarinetists on my ipod, and almost all ways I will practice after ten minutes of listening. What may work for me may not work to you, and I wont get better if my parents make me practice, so I make myself practice.
DTiegs
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2012-01-01 23:54
Please remember - to be a member of and use this BBoard you MUST have an accurate email on file - you can choose not to expose it, but it must be on file.
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Author: ClarionRegister
Date: 2012-01-02 00:16
Thank you for the information! I thought it was inertia but just wanted to have some other opinions.
@Mark: I put a valid password now, thank you for pointing that out.
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Author: oca
Date: 2012-01-02 00:56
I see you are from Ocala, Florida, haha :D
You might have some other things on your plate. Finish your other work realy fast first, and then maybe you'll be likely to pick that Ridenour more
How is that Ridenour treating you?
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2012-01-02 00:58
It may also be a symptom of personality type.
I read a paper on the Judging/Perceiving aspect of Meyers-Briggs that was very enlightening on the topic of what's often termed laziness or procrastination.
While it may in fact be the case that it's laziness, a difference in work process may also be involved.
The gist:
Judging personalities are very methodical, and approach a problem by breaking it down into small pieces and working on it a bit each day. Perceiving personalities see a problem, turn it over for days or weeks in their head, and, at what seems to be the last moment, make a bit of a marathon session over a handful of hours or days. The judging personality sees this as lazy, the perceiving sees it as efficient, having started to work on it precisely when it became necessary.
This works great for term papers, especially because the perceiver also typically gets a boost from having the whole problem laid out at once.
A judging personality would seem to be a better fit for something like playing a musical instrument, where frequent practice is necessary to establish and enhance skill. For me, as a person very deep in the perceiving end of the spectrum, frequent performances are key to keeping my chops up. Or frequent rehearsals. Effectively, frequent interjections of other people counting on my presence as a musician. Frequent mini-deadlines for me to prepare for. Lessons alone don't cut it for me, and I find that having at least 3 commitments per week is when I hit my stride.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: ClarionRegister
Date: 2012-01-02 01:12
Haha! Well, Im actually living in Tallahassee, Im not really sure why it says I live there.
The Ridenour is very good! I practice for around 3 hours a day and it really helps me develop my skills. The throat notes are very clear and smooth, the instrument is nice and even in terms of playability and stays well in tune. I also have to mention the fact that it smells wonderful. A complaint though is the quality control, even though they are handcrafted the cork connected to the middle tenon was oddly shaped so it was hard for me assemble and dissembled the instrument and made the clarinet 'wobbly'. When it was sent up there to get fixed it took him over a month for it to be sent back....but despite that its a wonderful instrument!
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Author: huda
Date: 2012-01-03 05:56
if you dont want to, you cant be forced to; try to push yourself to be on a schedule, and threaten yourself (ie-"i wont have supper until ive played")
another way to play tough with yourself, is to find a friend who plays something, and have a scheduled duet. youll have to go! m.y.k.
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Author: Tony M
Date: 2012-01-03 11:08
There is a trick to this. You have to convince yourself that you should be doing something else, something that goes on as long as practising clarinet, say writing a blog. Then you practise clarinet as a way of not writing the blog. It works. I wrote a Ph.D. by avoiding my novel. Still haven't finished the novel but I've made more money from the second-rate academic job than I ever would have done as a second-rate novelist. Life is good if you can trick it.
Post Edited (2012-01-03 11:09)
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Author: Nessie1
Date: 2012-01-03 12:11
I'm not sure about the Myers Briggs explaination - I've been tested several times and always come up very deep on the Judging side but I still recognize some of the characteristics which Alex describes as typical of perceiving in myself - as you say on the other side of the pond, go figure! (Not that I'm saying Alex has it wrong or anything but this is the way it seems to me).
However in terms of a practical answer to the question, I think that having regular goals to work towards which will cause embarrassment/pain/financial loss if you you fail at them is probably what works for me - say three or four times a year you plan to play in public/go to a summer school/take an audition or an exam etc. and you know that you will make an absolute fool of yourself if you do badly and that may help.
Also, I do tend to find it's one of those habits that becomes a virtuous circle - start practising regularly and you will find yourself itching to get down to work and enjoying all your playing so much more.
Good luck
Vanessa.
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Author: ClarionRegister
Date: 2012-01-03 19:14
Thank you all very much! Im able to get up now and practice my normal three hours again.
Best wishes to all!
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2012-01-03 21:15
Nessie:
From what I understand, it's not an all-or nothing, everyone has a bit of both. But people typically have a whole lot more of one than the other. The paper in question was apparently one of the first to look at these traits of the perceiver as "another valid way of doing things" rather than as deficiencies. I chatted with the author at length about it. Apparently this approach even shocked one of *the* Meyers-Briggs authorities, who replied to the author that this finally made his own personality make sense.
Tony M:
That approach has worked wonders for me, but usually only when there's a deadline. If a paper's due in 2 days, my house becomes spotless. If someone's coming over for dinner and the place needs to be clean, I'll write 5 pages of music in 3 hours. Etc.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2012-01-04 08:07
maybe play some music CD's with great clarinet players. Sometimes that gets me going!
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Author: Tony M
Date: 2012-01-04 11:05
Alex, I'm not sure if you get the point here. The trick is not to avoid what you should be doing but to invent something that you want to do so you can avoid that and do what you should be doing. Fundamentally it is predicated on the idea that a positive approach to life is impossible and happiness comes from being sneaky, especially in relation to deceiving oneself. Or maybe you were being ironic and I didn't pick up on it. It's hard to know when you stray from the straight and narrow.
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Author: ClarionRegister
Date: 2012-01-04 14:50
I do understand this. All these different approaches has gotten me back on my normal schedule. This idea is certainly a clever one and I will use it if the problem ever comes back (which I doubt it will).
Once again, thanks to all for responding!
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