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Author: miclew
Date: 2011-12-18 13:16
Is the music actually arranged or is it merely a transposition of the soprano line from the piano version? If it is actually orchestrally arranged for the clarinet to give the music some flavor I will buy it ($44.00) If it is merely a transposition of the soprano piano part I will pass as I can transpose it myself.
Michele
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Author: William
Date: 2011-12-18 16:21
If you play a hymnal in C using three Bb sopranos and a bass, you don't need to have it transposed. You will all sound in the same transposed key. However, if you are wanting to play along with a keyboard or choir, then the transposed lead line would do just fine. BTW, what is a "Baptist" hymnal anyway? I grew up in that church and we sang the same hymns all the other congregations sang.
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Author: miclew
Date: 2011-12-18 18:36
Here is the pew edition of the book
http://www.lifeway.com/Product/baptist-hymnal-2008-pew-edition-M00000211
Here is the Bb version
http://www.lifeway.com/Product/baptist-hymnal-1991-bb-clarinet-1-2-edition-P001087028
It is a normal hymnal It is put out by the Southern Baptist Convention and most Baptist Churches use it. The Methodists have their own version which contains pretty much the same songs though some of them are in different keys. The Primitive Baptists and Mennonites do not use musical instruments in their services so their hymnals have shaped notes.
If I start playing in church, it will be along with a piano, organ, guitar and bass. I would be the only woodwind.
michele
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Author: Pastor Rob
Date: 2011-12-18 21:58
The Baptist hymnals I have from Majesty Music and North Valley Publications have two or four parts for each song. The soprano line is of course a simple transposition. Perhaps you will inspire others to join as well and then you can play the alto or tenor part.
Pastor Rob Oetman
Leblanc LL (today)
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2011-12-19 02:14
Michele, I looked at both links you provided from Lifeway. The pew version (standard SATB) a 2008 edition, and the Bb version, a 1991 edition, may or may not be identical hymnals. The Bb version will have treble lines, playable by Bb instruments, already transposed to fit in with the key the piano, voices, organ, and other C instruments are playing or singing.
Just as aside note, it is incorrect to assume that all chuches of particular denominations play from certain hymnals...as if assigned to them. I have spent my entire 50 years in Baptist churchs--mostly Southern Baptist--and it is not a given that all Baptist churches use the same hymnal. Also, you cannot throw all Mennonite churches into the same category, claiming they do not use instruments to accompany their singing. The more modern Mennonites do,r in fact, use instruments in their worship services.
I'm not offended by your statements but being Southern Baptist and being married to a Baptist minister of music, I don't like to see generalities put forth as absolutes.
Good for you playing your horn in church, though! I think it adds a lot to the experience of worship.
Post Edited (2011-12-19 02:19)
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2011-12-19 12:58
Well, given your abundant self-assurance, I would suggest transposing the hymns the way you'd like for your part to sound.
When I was studying at SWBTS and the wind ensemble played for chapel services, we were given hymnals to read from, to accompany the singing. We had to transpose on the spot. It was a great discipline for me to be able to do this. It's definitely a skill you should cultivate.
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2011-12-19 19:26
LJ, your comments are funny, sad, and true! I've thought a lot about the differences in worship experiences that my kids have had growing up and mine when I was growing up.
At this time of year, I'm becoming painfully aware that our parents and my husband and I are the last ones in our family to know all the words and harmonizations to the traditional Christmas carols. My kids, not so much...unless the words are up on a PowerPoint presentation.
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Author: miclew
Date: 2011-12-19 22:19
Our church only does hymns, no contemporary Christian praise and worship except for solos.
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Author: Lee
Date: 2011-12-20 00:44
When our church started an orchestra about 35 years ago we used the standard hymnals and transposed. Then the church bought orchestra arranged copies (loose leaf) which went with the Baptist Hymnal which the church used. Then we changed to the Celebration Hymnal and purchased the orchestra arranged copies to use. The church I'm in now subscribes to an online service which allows the church to download and print the parts needed. (this is used with projected words for the congregation.)
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Author: miclew
Date: 2011-12-20 12:42
Lee,
When you used the loose leaf arranged copies was the clarinet part a simple transposition of the soprano part printed in the regular hymnal or did they actually change the clarinet part to be more harmonizing???
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Author: Lee
Date: 2011-12-20 21:12
Michele,
No, it was part of an orchastration which went with the hymnal but was not just a transposition of any of the SATB parts.
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Author: miclew
Date: 2011-12-21 02:13
Thank you, Lee. That is exactly what I needed to know
michele
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