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Author: orchestr
Date: 2011-12-04 20:25
Has anyone noticed a difference in the new Vandoren reeds with the logo "burnt" into the reed table and the old Vandorens with the logo printed on? My main concern is that when I run my (presumably flat) reed knife over the logo, I can feel the little bumps where the logo is "printed", meaning some of it must be sticking up above the table. I feel like this would prevent the reed from laying flat against the mouthpiece and sealing properly. Any opinions?
Post Edited (2011-12-04 20:26)
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2011-12-05 00:30
Do you notice a difference in the sound or in their performance overall? If not, then it really doesn't matter,does it?
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: kdk
Date: 2011-12-05 00:35
I only opened a couple of boxes of them, but they seemed overall stuffy to me, even in a softer strength than i normally use. Whether it's the specific batch of cane itself or the branding, I have no idea at this point.
Karl
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-12-05 01:06
I just opened a box from a purchase of 56s last week from Muncy Winds; there is no difference to the print on these reed (older boxes? they don't do this to 56s???).
If there is any raised surface to any logo on the table side of the reed, you may want to do a very light buffing with a sharpening stone or even Vandoren's very own glass, reed gizm. I periodically go through phases were I do this to new reeds as part of the breaking in process, but I am not in this phase right now. Perhaps if I run into the bumpiness you folks describe I will be thrust back into this discipline.
....................Paul Aviles
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Author: C.Elizabeth07
Date: 2011-12-05 01:11
I don't think they do it to the 56's, I usually play on the 56's but I have several boxes of V12's and standard blue boxes where it is branded and I have found them to be stuffy too.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2011-12-05 01:23
Give them a couple of swipes on a file to remove any high spots and see if they play any differently.
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Author: Sean.Perrin
Date: 2011-12-05 04:39
Interesting you mention this... I have been breaking in a new pack, my first with the new logos, and I thought of this today! I noticed a very clear "Vandoren" logo on the mouthpiece when I took it off.
I doubt it really effects the reed at all, and I think any high areas could be cleaned up very easily, but I'm more concerned about damage to the cane fibres. If this is a stamp, couldn't it be doing more harm than good?
Founder and host of the Clarineat Podcast: http://www.clarineat.com
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-12-05 23:46
Interesting thought about the cane fibers.
I think that I have had better luck following the idea that sealing the fibers (think of them as straws bundled together) on the vamp side or even the butt (or both) actually helps the reed become more stable. If this is the case, then the smushing of the fibers may actually be beneficial towards this goal.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-12-06 06:26
They're laser etched now instead of being screen printed, so the logo and strength info on the flat side is below the surface. I only noticed this on the box of red Java alto reeds while moistening them as I could feel the logo with my tongue!
Just out of curiosity, did Vandoren produce what is in effect 'stencil' reeds for Buffet (Prestige) and Selmer (Soloist)? Only they bore an uncanny resemblence to them as well as the screen printing of the logos looked as though it was done on the same machine.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: oca
Date: 2011-12-07 08:50
This is why I LOATHE big companies.
There is no positive effect of this printing of the logo, but they risk the negative effects by attachment of words, printed or lazered-on, thus diminishing the value of the companies purpose to its money instead of its customers.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-12-07 09:53
Let's not forget that BIG companies provide things like 'longer warranties,' and 'customer support' and 'fairly consistent pricing.' To appreciate the problem with small companies you need only talk to your local trumpet players about some of the "nut cases" that happen to make pretty good custom trumpets.
...................Paul Aviles
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