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Author: Bflat man
Date: 2011-10-31 06:32
I'm geting a Rover dark are they
good ligatures
Bayden
Post Edited (2011-10-31 06:35)
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Author: clarinetguy ★2017
Date: 2011-10-31 20:40
I told this story a while back, and I'll repeat it here.
I've been using a Rovner dark for a while, and it's a decent ligature. I was once at a clarinet seminar, and a vendor was there with an assortment of ligatures, some priced at four times the cost of my Rovner dark. I tried several of them, and noticed little or no difference. I decided then and there to stick with what I have.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2011-10-31 22:53
I like it. It's basic, and it works.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-10-31 22:57
Of course if you don't mind me splitting hairs, I would take the 'Light' over the 'Dark' any day only because it does not dampen the sound as much.
..................Paul Aviles
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Author: RachelB4
Date: 2011-11-01 16:17
Yes the ligature is good. Definitely a good standard ligature to work with especially for the price.
But if you want to get specific, there are definitely better ligatures out there. I've used this ligature for many years, and I feel that it dampens my sound a tad. Responsiveness is ok. Everything about it is average. a Vandoren optimum is good if you want to try that and compare it to the rovner. It sings better, responsiveness is better and it opens the sound so much more.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2011-11-01 17:04
It holds the reed onto the mouthpiece. Whether it is good or not is very personal. Some folks like them, some don't.
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Author: William
Date: 2011-11-01 18:19
FWIW, I always liked the Bonade reverse ligs, even with their constant need for readjustment. Now I am playing the Vandy Opimum with the parallel rail insert. Plays just like the od B's but holds its shape.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2011-11-01 21:44
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But if you want to get specific, there are definitely better ligatures out there. I've used this ligature for many years, and I feel that it dampens my sound a tad. Responsiveness is ok. Everything about it is average. a Vandoren optimum is good if you want to try that and compare it to the rovner. It sings better, responsiveness is better and it opens the sound so much more. I think the same thing. It's all-around "average". I use a rovner Eddie Daniels. I use it with the thin metal plate and let the metal contact the reed directly. Very similar to the vandoren optimum parallel rails, just cheaper and not as fragile. And when I put my mouthpiece away for the day, I put the leather over the metal and put it back on the mouthpiece with the cap to protect the table and tip from scratches while in the case.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Tony M
Date: 2011-11-01 21:55
For what it's worth, I switched from a Rovner Dark to a Vandoren M/O ligature in the middle of this year. It was a good move. I never had a problem with the Rovner Dark and didn't want to lose the convenience of the the single screw and ease of use but the Vandoren M/O has all those things but I immediately noticed a more resonant and responsive reed. It feels much lighter than the Rover Dark but it is just as secure.
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2011-11-02 00:10
"I'm geting a Rover dark."
Sounds like you already made up your mind. If there is a music store near you try out several ligatures.
I seem to stay with metal ones such as the Bonades. There are several others I like as well, such as very light weight ones.
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Author: Buster
Date: 2011-11-02 00:36
I soldered Bonade nickel-silver rails inside my Kaspar inverted ligature, sewed that to a Rovner light and then wrapped the entire contraption in German-string around my mouthpiece. It takes an hour to put on, but plays like a ligature in the end.
It is however a dream on my newly designed mouthpiece. I call it a Chedikaspettoneyvillelandais'brien'arico and I'll make you one for $1200 in gold bars.
Post Edited (2011-11-02 00:37)
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Author: Tony M
Date: 2011-11-02 01:03
Does the German-string come in roundwound and flatwound? Could I try one of each, please?
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Author: Buster
Date: 2011-11-02 01:15
Can be custom made, but I require a 50% deposit in advance. Non-refundable of course.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2011-11-02 21:21
Quote:
I soldered Bonade nickel-silver rails inside my Kaspar inverted ligature, sewed that to a Rovner light and then wrapped the entire contraption in German-string around my mouthpiece. It takes an hour to put on, but plays like a ligature in the end. Do you think they'll match up to my full boehm gold-plated set of Wurlitzers and my $800 original Kaspar mouthpiece with homemade reeds from homegrown, organic arundo donax?
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Tony M
Date: 2011-11-03 00:18
Are you allowed to grow arundo donax for personal use these days?
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2011-11-03 02:17
Nice one Tony! Only in California I think! Need a prescription from some sort of wacko doc!
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Author: clarinetguy ★2017
Date: 2011-11-04 00:29
I'd like to amend my earlier advice. It really depends on your mouthpiece and reeds.
For a long time, I used a Vandoren M15. Switching ligatures on it didn't seem to affect the sound very much. Because this mouthpiece has seen better days and wasn't working well for me anymore, I did some mouthpiece shopping this week. I settled on a Gennusa Excellente, and on this mouthpiece, the ligature does make a difference. The Rovner dark works fine, but I notice that my old gold Harrison (which I recently got back after lending it to someone) works even better. It isn't a big difference, but the difference is definitely there.
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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2011-11-04 00:41
Questions: the ligatures that have the placement of the screw(s) on the top outer side of the mouthpiece...obviously putting the weight of the ligature there, does that affect the sound at all?
Does it cause more squeaking as if biting too hard?
Or does the weight there actually help embouchure?
Or just plain no difference?
Thanks so kindly.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-11-04 13:42
Embouchure and ligature are two completely separate animals. Squeaking is most usually caused by the reed being out of balance, that is one side of the reed is significantly stiffer than the other and as the tip tries to vibrate on a given note the reed finally seizes in the attempt. If the pressure of your embouchure around the mouthpiece is grossly asymmetrical there can be a similar result.
................Paul Aviles
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