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Author: janlynn
Date: 2011-10-26 15:53
For the longest time I would rush when I saw the big, black fast notes coming up in the music. Ive finally gotten over that and can relax with it now.
However, my neighbor has the same problem as I did and she plays loud and I find myself following her lead because she is overpowering me and making the same mistakes I used to.
How do I hold my own when someone is playing wrongly - too loud?
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2011-10-26 16:06
Now THAT takes real discipline. It's one thing to improve your rhythm and pulse significantly enough to not give in when the black ink appears, but it's another to maintain your cool while those around you capitulate.
As much as your rhythm/pulse have improved you may have that much again to reinforce and advance in skill before you'll be able to not rush along with the person you describe.
As I tell my students, it may take a small amount or preparation to play something correctly at home. It takes more to play correctly in the lesson. It takes significantly more to perform correctly on stage, and it takes A LOT more to perform correctly as a soloist.
Keep at it! Subdivide like mad before the passage and stick to your guns -- you can do it!
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2011-10-26 21:11
have you tried talking to the other player about it?
US Army Japan Band
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Author: William
Date: 2011-10-26 21:29
The conductor should not allow playing out of rhythm and "too loud" to happen and should be in charge of any remandation (is that a word?) or correction. You can talk to the offending clarinetist--or any other errant player--but really, the podium should be taking care of this. What else is a conductor good for?????????????
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-10-27 00:12
...........and then we need to discuss the PREVAILING RHYTHM.
Rhythm does NOT exist in a vacuum. If everyone else is rushing and you are the only one playing perfectly in rhythm, you are then actually dragging. You all must play together in rhythm, pitch and dynamic or you are ALL wrong.
Yes, yes, the conductor needs to control this, but let's be honest, it is up to most ensembles to correct themselves since most conductors only do 'the best that they can.' And I refer to 'maestros' as well as middle school conductors.
......................Paul Aviles
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2011-10-27 01:32
Hi Janlynn,
The remedy for the situation you are describing is "leadership".
Some players are followers. My D.H., for example, does really, really well in a situation where he is surrounded by others giving cues as to when and where he should play. When he is one-to-a-part (as in chamber music) , he gets confused.
This is what section leaders are for, ideally. Have you ever been in a church choir that had paid section leaders? These folks exist to give the followers something to follow, and the whole choir benefits as a result.
Does your group have section leaders, de facto or de jure? That's your first line of defense.
But I sense that you may be wanting to become a leader. At least, the first symptom of wanting to become a leader is being dissatisfied with what you find going on around you. Followers don't know they are doing it wrong, and can't help themselves. Incipient leaders know what the problem is, but aren't sure they can fix it.
Keep after your own playing, strengthen your own fundamentals, and you may emerge as the one that everyone else follows!
Susan
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