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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2011-10-10 14:24
Greetings.
Does anyone know or have a link to a great source for an assortment of clarinet screws? I noticed that my $25.00 Artley thrift store find has an improvisation part on it (yes, banging my head on table) and it is in need of a slightly longer screw to make it work just fine. Any help for finding a clarinet screw source would be kindly appreciated. Thanks so much.
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2011-10-10 20:03
Clarinet screws come in a vast range of shapes, sizes, thread types etc etc and often even vary between different models and different vintages of the same manufacturer.
Most suppliers stock a reasonable range of current and not too un-current types but as far as I am aware you have to order them individually.
Long established techs usually aquire a good range from both suppliers and from damaged/scrapped instruments.
Then it's usually a case of trawling through your stock to find one that fits.
I think this may be a case where a visit to your local tech may be easier.
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Author: SteveG_CT
Date: 2011-10-10 20:20
Do you need a pivot/point screw or a rod screw? In either case you will probably need to pay a visit to your local repair tech. Rod screw can be easily fabricated out of a piece of the correct diameter rod. Pivot screws are more difficult to fabricate but thankfully most styles can be ordered from a catalog.
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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2011-10-11 12:56
Dear Norman, do you per chance know of where I might be able to order screws of this size? Thanks.
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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2011-10-12 21:37
Hey there all!
Well, upon much investigation, I see that I should not call these things "screws", but what I am looking for is a key hinge rod, but actually it is a screw of course.
I have also discovered (per my banging my head on table note above) that what appears to have happened is that the top part which holds the "key hinge rod" ... this rod has been forced down into the chamber in order to hold the other padded leg down which is underneath. These are the parts that are at the "top" of the instrument of the series of cups and pads per this instrument.
I thought it was switched with some other replacement part, but it might not be the case after all, because it just seems that the workings underneath may have been slightly bent down which causes the top mechanism to not push down enough, even the way it is currently, probably about a 1/16 gap that is lacking in push down. Does not create a perfect seal (pad) as there is not enough tension to hold it down. Even more, the key hinge rod is jammed into the chamber and that truly might be a challenge to get it out. It sticks out the other end. Flat head screw top is lodged deep inside this 1/4 inch or so chamber.
But even more, I finally got it all put together anyway, with a new barrel and mouthpiece, and I don't know...it just does not seem to work. Except for the above problem everything else seems to be quite solid about it.
I am stumped. I can see now why some of these things turn out to be quite the project. Clueless here. But it is a lovely clarinet, very pretty and great shape except for problem stated upon, which probably is not a big deal to a technician.
But the thing is...quite few years ago I went looking to support a music store and was asking for a case...at that time years ago, one could buy a NEW case online for $35 or so total, and out they came with two rickety crusty (I did not want to touch them truly) cases, and I was told, pick one for $50.00. I do not know how to express how often I have tried to support local music stores (and I guess I really do and have laid out a lot of cash over time), but I just feel so ripped off and all that so I just don't know what to do at times, when it comes to a tiny screw that might be 3/8 inches that might just cost $100.00. I just can't do it. I would just feel so cheated and disillusioned.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2011-10-13 03:45
>> Well, upon much investigation, I see that I should not call these things "screws", but what I am looking for is a key hinge rod, but actually it is a screw of course. <<
Different people still use different terms for these, but there are some terms that most people use.
Hinge rod: Part of the key or lever that is turning (between the posts) and is solid. This is held by pivot screws.
Hinge tube: Same as above except it is hollow, like a tube and is held by a rod screw.
Pivot screw: The small screws that hold a hinge rod.
Rod screw: The longer rods with a threaded end and slot end which hold hinge tubes. Sounds like this is what you are talking about.
There are some rod screw with a pivot screw end (e.g. top ring key on clarinets). This is still called a rod screw. So the key is held by the end of that rod screw and a pivot screw on the other side.
This is the most commonly used terms to remove confusion. If it has "hinge" in its name, it refers to part of the key. If it has "screw" in its name, it is a type of screw. Then describe the type of "hinge" or type of "screw", rod, pivot, tube.
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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2011-10-13 22:10
Thanks for the definitions.
I got this wordage from diagrams of drawings and photos that depicted the parts that my instrument has a problem with.
That is where I discovered the name given for this screw.
Thanks again for the clarification.
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