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 Clarinet Fingerings
Author: Elkwoman46 
Date:   2011-10-06 20:08

I would like to know if there are any charts online that exist that are true fingering charts per true note? Not the ones that are off a semi-tone?
I hope I said this correctly.
Because I play for myself mostly or solo, I would like to relearn the true notes and play C music where it does not have to be transposed for any reason.

With that being said, would my way make the instrument harder to play?
Just asking.

Thanks so much.

God bless you in Jesus' Name.

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 Re: Clarinet Fingerings
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2011-10-06 21:14

That can be a tricky one as a lot of the keys on a clarinet are named after the fingered note, not the concert pitch note.

As an example, the throat A key is the key opened to give concert G, likewise the side Eb key is the key opened to give concert C# or Db.

If you're only playing clarinet on your own and without other players, then it's best to learn the standard fingerings for the written notes. If you plan on playing in a small group with other concert pitch instruments, then do look out for a C clarinet as that will allow you to read straight from vocal, piano, flute, violin and oboe music without having to transpose or learn a different fingering system.

The basic fingerings are the same on all clarinets but the notes produced are different depending what key the clarinet is pitched in, so it may end up causing you trouble if you learn to play a Bb clarinet using concert pitch fingerings when it comes to playing music actually transposed for a Bb clarinet as you'll have to relearn the correct clarinet fingerings.

It wouldn't make the instrument any harder to play if you do learn the concert pitch fingerings for every note, but once that is routine it will make it harder to play from transposed music as the majority of clarinet music is all transposed.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Clarinet Fingerings
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2011-10-06 21:56

Getting a C clarinet would fit the bill much better - the fingerings would be in concert pitch.

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 Re: Clarinet Fingerings
Author: kdk 
Date:   2011-10-06 22:35

I'm not sure why you would want to do what you're describing.

If you're playing alone with no other instruments, just play the part, whatever instrument it's written for, with the standard fingerings. Unless you have "perfect pitch" and hearing F when you're reading and fingering G bothers you, this shouldn't be a problem. It doesn't have to match anyone else's pitch.

When you play in a group, if the part is written for a B-flat clarinet, you'd have the problem of having to remember to use standard fingerings instead of the translated ones you're looking for. If your part is written at concert pitch, a C clarinet will, as Mark says, solve the problem in a more practical way than relearning a new set of fingerings, then having to keep both the new and standard set "in your fingers."

If you really want to rename each fingering, so that A440 is fingered with all of your fingers and the last lever key (the standard B fingering) all you'd need to do is take a standard fingering chart and tape a new staff with the notes you want for each fingering above the diagrams (so a 2nd space A sits above the long standard B fingering.

Karl

Karl

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 Re: Clarinet Fingerings
Author: Claire Annette 
Date:   2011-10-07 01:24

It would be easier just to learn to transpose at sight, if you are asking for the purpose of playing in church with C instruments. When I was in seminary, our wind ensemble would often play for weekly chapel services. The director passed out hymnals to each of us and it was our job to transpose on sight and read the voice part that was assigned to us.

I have often played in church and have had to transpose flute and violin parts. I would LOVE to have one of Ridenour's Lyric Cs.

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 Re: Clarinet Fingerings
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2011-10-07 04:02

>> I'm not sure why you would want to do what you're describing. <<

I know a few people who did this with wind instruments like trumpet and clarinet. It was because they already played piano and didn't want to "think" transposed with another instrument. They don't really play "normal" charts though. They play by ear, or with their own charts (mainly their own music) or have charts in C written for them (usually original music anyway so no need for extra work transposing anything). It's different for somoene who intends to play "regular" transposed clarinet music.

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 Re: Clarinet Fingerings
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2011-10-07 17:00

"It would be easier just to learn to transpose at sight."

It seems to me that this would be equivalent to memorizing (or creating on the fly) the kind of chart Elkwoman is looking for.


Elkwoman asked:

"...would my way make the instrument harder to play?"

The answer is, "it depends." If you will only ever play concert pitch parts on a Bb clarinet, the answer is no. Otherwise, however, the answer is probably yes. Search for "transposing instruments" on the archives here or on Google for an explanation.

The clarinet is a "transposing" instrument. This means that (with minor variations to accommodate intonation) the player learns one set of fingerings that apply to all the instruments in the family. A written C4 uses the same fingering whether you are playing a sopranino clarinet in G or Ab, a piccolo clarinet in D or Eb, a soprano clarinet in A, Bb or C or a basset horn in F. (What you do on a bass clarinet depends on whether you're French or German.  :) )

By convention, composers provide written parts transposed from concert pitch to allow for a transposing instrument's inherent key. Otherwise a clarinetist would have to learn a different set of fingerings for each clarinet s/he wanted/needed to play -- eight different complete sets for all the clarinets I have listed above. Even allowing that parts for clarinets in Ab, and G are extremely rare and parts for clarinets in D are relatively rare, to play the more common instruments a clarinetist would still need to learn 5 different sets. To complicate matters, the clarinetist would have to remember which instrument s/he was playing and which set of fingerings applied at all times. Trust me, that's not as easy as it sounds.

The other side of the coin, however, is that if a clarinetist encounters a part that is not written for a clarinet s/he has available, the clarinetist must either write out a transposed part for an available clarinet or "sight transpose" (create an alternate set of fingerings on the fly). Most clarinetists do this for D clarinet parts (play on Eb), many do it for C parts (play on Bb or A), and some do it for A clarinet parts (play on Bb). Most of the time, though, it's easiest to play the part on the clarinet it was written for because composers usually (but not always) specify the (common) clarinet that puts the clarinetist in the simplest key. And it's easiest to have a clarinet in the right key for parts you want to play so, in your case, as others have noted, adding a C clarinet to your arsenal would be the easiest solution to your issue.

BTW, recorders are an example of "non-transposing" instruments. Their parts are normally written in concert pitch and the recorder player uses one set of fingerings if playing a garklein, soprano or tenor recorder (which are pitched in the key of C) but a different set of fingerings for sopranino. alto and bass recorder (which are pitched in F). But, at least, the recorder player only has to learn and keep straight two sets of fingerings.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: Clarinet Fingerings
Author: Elkwoman46 
Date:   2011-10-07 21:18

Why thank you so kindly Jack and all. This information is so helpful that I think I will print it out and keep it as reference...THANK YOU SO MUCH!

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 Re: Clarinet Fingerings
Author: Elkwoman46 
Date:   2011-10-13 22:17

Jack, was it this reply that made me a troll in your eyes?

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 Re: Clarinet Fingerings
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2011-10-14 04:38

No, not at all. Why would it? And, for the record, I didn't say I thought you were a troll. I said I would describe your question about Buffet as a troll -- in the fishing sense of put some bait on a hook (or use a lure), toss your line into the water, drag it around a bit and see what happens.

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