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Author: MissHarmonium
Date: 2011-09-09 21:13
Hi i'm new on the forum and i'm not very good in English...
i'm french but i give a try.
i have a clarinet buffet and i'm not sure what kind of clarinet it's.
i have the serial number it's 820N1 so i look on a list of serial number from the company and i found this --- 2N1 - 999N1 1921
so i just want a be sure it's is really a 1921 clarinet.
Thank you for helping me
i can put picture too if that gonna help you
Still sorry for my poor English...
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2011-09-09 23:17
Votre anglais est mieux que mon français. Oui, vous avez une clarinette 1921.
Cordialement,
jnk
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Author: MissHarmonium
Date: 2011-09-10 03:33
Thank you!
i have another question this clarinet work with the oehler system and this is german.
it is normal on french clarinet?
I know that buffet use the Boehm system.
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Author: MissHarmonium
Date: 2011-09-10 03:46
another thing i have two number on that clarinet one on the upper part and one on the bodom part.
which one is the real serial number?
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2011-09-10 13:28
It may be time for those pictures. They might help us identify what you really have.
During the 1800s and early 1900s when the clarinet was still evolving, Buffet made a number of different models, including variations of simple system ("German") clarinets. Whether any of these were true Oehlers (based on Oskar Oehler's designs), I don't know but a non-Boehm Buffet clarinet as late as 1920 is probably possible.
Both numbers may be real serial numbers. You may have parts from two different clarinets. What is the other number? Where are the numbers located?
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: MissHarmonium
Date: 2011-09-10 20:51
Attachment: clarinette buffet crampon.jpg (1478k)
the picture number two it's the lower joint and the number as you see it's 820N1.
Picture 3: Upper joint the number it's 6566.
picture 4: lower joint with the buffet logo.
picture 5: the same ... (sorry)
i will put the upper joint with the buffet logo ...
so new pic upper joint .
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Author: MissHarmonium
Date: 2011-09-10 20:55
OH i forgot to tell you guys that all part of my clarinet have the buffet logo
Hope that's gonna help you!
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Author: chris moffatt
Date: 2011-09-11 22:01
Your clarinet is a hybrid Albert system clarinet. The Albert & Oehler systems have a common ancestor. It appears that the lower part of your instrument dates from 1921 while the upper part is from around 1930. From the rings it looks like the bell, lower part and barrel belong together. It is somewhat unusual, also, in that the upper piece is from a different design of Albert instrument called by some the "simple system" clarinet. Mostly if an Albert clarinet has rollers on the keys for little fingers you will find that it has a two or three ring mechanism on the upper piece. This is not always so, just what one usually sees. I think some previous owner of this clarinet replaced the original upper piece, probably because of cracking or because he/she played simple-system but wanted the extra ease of roller keys on the lower piece (it can be a big advantage at times when playing a simple-system clarinet).
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