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Author: DNBoone
Date: 2011-08-30 21:11
Hello,
I made a topic about this some time ago but it is finally rather set and thought I would get opinions on order.
Schumann fantasy pieces
Weber Gran Duo
intermission
Sutermeister Cappriccio
Schoeck Sonata for Bass Clarinet.
These will also serve as grad audition pieces with the addition of the Mozart Expo.
Thoughts?
Please don't go on a rampage about someone else going on to grad school. I have been through that on here already.
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2011-08-30 22:52
I don't know the Schoeck...But the rest looks good. My only (personal) choice would be to open with the Sutermeister and play the Schumann first on the second half...
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Author: DNBoone
Date: 2011-08-30 23:32
The Schoeck is kind of a awkward, jazzish, something, bass clarinet piece that is about 15 minutes long. One of the few somewhat standard bass clarinet pieces.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-08-31 03:40
If it were me playing this recital I would do the Suttermiester 2nd since it is on the A clarinet, same as the Schumann and end the 1st half with the Weber. Time wise that's a better half, about 30-35 minutes. Intermission. Then I'd open the second half with a short piece on bass before ending with the Schoeck. You can do any number of short solo pieces on the bass, it could be a clarinet solo, or one to three mov't from a Bach cello suite, I play them form the cello part and I don't transpose them. Or you can play a short transcription for bass clarinet, do some research. That way you can warm up on bass for the 2nd half and not spend so much down time changing instruments all the time, and they would be more warmed up at playing time. ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: DNBoone
Date: 2011-08-31 11:43
Thanks for the thoughts Mr. Palanker. I will see if I can find another short bass piece. I like the idea of that. Sadly you are no longer teaching I would have loved to audition and take lessons from you.
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Author: Chetclarinet
Date: 2011-08-31 22:42
I echoe Ed's thoughts on your recital order . It is better to separate the bass clarinet and group the A clarinet works together. I recently had a student to a somewhat similar program at the University of Houston and he did the same thing and it worked out very well for him. The bass clarinet does effect briefly the proper focus of the clarinet sound when returning quickly to the clarinet.That is probably why there are no first clarinet/bass doubling parts in the professional orchestral literature to my knowledge. I teach both instruments and love them both, play both on recitals, but always separate the instruments. Incidentally the Schoeck Sonata is one of the very few known standard works for bass clarinet and piano .
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Author: DNBoone
Date: 2011-09-01 02:27
Thanks for the thoughts. I do have a short flute and bass clarinet duo that I have wanted to do for a long time that would fit in the time frame. I only worried about doing too much modern music next to each other. And not to bash people who do it, but I try to avoid performing transcriptions on bass. There is so much good bass clarinet music being written I don't see the need for it anymore.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-09-02 01:38
I don't think adding a duet with flute, being modern, would be a distraction. It will add color using a flute. For Chet, there is one piece, Sibeilus sym. #6 has a nice bass clarinet solo in the last mov't on the first clarinet part. When we do it though, I play the bass clarinet solo, not the principal, he doesn't play bass. However, there are a great many pieces that the second or third clarinet switches back and forth constantly. Because we do that so often we learn to focus very well on either instrument. There's a good deal of chamber music being written now that the player has to switch between instruments as well. ESP
DNBoone, I no longer teach at a school but if you're ever passing through the MD area, I do teach privately in my home studio.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
Post Edited (2011-09-02 01:39)
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Author: DNBoone
Date: 2011-09-02 01:58
I never worry about it for myself, but others in this world tend to believe that all the great music is from the older pieces. Personally, I would rather play modern music. And good thing too since I mainly play bass.
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Author: DNBoone
Date: 2011-09-02 19:44
On an update, I will probably be doing the Stravinsky Three Pieces instead of the Sutermeister. Some of the places I want to audition specifically require the Stravinsky.
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2011-09-03 01:39
Well, then you'll have to switch from A to Bb anyway!
I always like opening with an unaccompanied piece. I don't know if that's a personal thing or what...
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Author: Chetclarinet
Date: 2011-09-03 14:09
Thanks Ed for that additional information . I know there are many good chamber works that use Clarinet/bass clarinet as a double, but was not aware of the Sibelius No.6 part. I once had to subsititute for the first clarinetist in a dress rehearsal for the Nutcracker, and played both the clarinet and bass solos --it was not too much fun! Broadway show orchestrations obviously use mutiple doublings on clarinet , bass, and somtimes E-flat--Phantom of the Opera,Wicked, come to mind and many others. I often instruct my students to double on these instruments and to adapt quickly to the tonal differences. I greatly admire musicians like John Moses who consitantly maintains the higest of musical standards on these three instruments, in addition to soprano saxophone in the pit for a demanding show like "Wicked" on a nightly basis throughout the year!
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2011-09-03 14:40
The first clarinet part of Dvorak's Symphony No. 5 has a brief (5+ bar) solo for bass clarinet in the last movement. The first clarinet has 3 bars to change to bass and 3+ bars to change back.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2011-09-03 14:44
I know the Sutermeister is on A clarinet. I just was referencing the earlier recommendation to put it with the Schumann so that the A clarinet pieces were together. If you're doing Stravinsky, that point is moot.
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2011-09-03 21:47
For those that have performed the Stravinsky 3 pieces on recitals, did you keep with the recommendations of which movements "should" be played on Bb and A? I don't have the music with me at the moment, but it's "preferred" (I think that's the printed word) that the first 2 movements are on (Bb?) and the 3rd is on (A?). I know it's split 2 and 1, just don't remember which are Bb and which are A).
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Rachel
Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2011-09-04 13:41
Katrina wrote:
> The first 2 are on A, the third is Bb.
Thank you. I knew they were split, but didn't remember which were which.
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Rachel
Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max
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