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Author: Graham Golden 
Date:   2001-01-29 03:55

Hello,

While looking at the SML web site http://www.sml-marigaux.com/english/catalogue.asp?instrument=clarinets

I noticed that they have metal lined tennons. Is this just a translation error and it should say metal tenon caps, or do they really have metal lined tennons???

Graham

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 RE: SML
Author: Anji 
Date:   2001-01-29 13:09

I have a Thibouville Bb with what amounts to a "Cup" on both ends of the barrel and a similar receptacle on the top of the lower joint. This may be the same layout you describe. It makes for a very solid linkage between the sections, with little likelihood of freezing or cracking.

This seems to be a little overbuilt.

It also makes fitting other barrels and moutpieces difficult.

You must wonder what this sort of joint does to resonance.
anji

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 RE: SML
Author: Blake 
Date:   2001-01-29 15:26

The Buffet R-13 Eb's have this as well. Blake Arlington, VA

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 RE: SML
Author: Dave Spiegelthal 
Date:   2001-01-29 18:53

I have such a metal "cup" fitting in the tenon socket cavity of the lower joint of my 1950's (?) vintage Thibouville Freres clarinet. I find that it has two drawbacks: (1) The cup is nickel-silver and therefore tarnishes, which dirties the upper joint lower tenon cork, which therefore has to be cleaned about once a week. A very minor hassle. (2) The "cork into metal" joint thus created has less friction than the typical "cork into wood" joint, which increases the possibility of wobble in the joint (the flip side of easier assembly/disassembly, of course).

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 RE: SML
Author: Anji 
Date:   2001-01-30 20:32

How do you like the sound of the Thibouville, Dave?

I understand the Green Hornet played had one of these, but Kato refused to play it... it would spontaneously disassemble in a fight.
anji

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 RE: SML
Author: Dave Spiegelthal 
Date:   2001-01-30 22:17

I very much like the sound of my Thibouville, and it has thus far shown no inclination to disassemble itself, vaporize, or otherwise combust spontaneously. Thank goodness. Burning grenadilla is very hard to put out.

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 RE: SML
Author: Mark Pinner 
Date:   2001-02-01 04:01

My Boosey & Co. Clinton systems have metal sleeves similar to a Marigaux as do Boosey & Hawkes 1010's and Cuesnon German Boehm's. The main advantage is to allow a true fit of the tenons the cork remember should only be to keep the joints air tight not to keep a true fit. Some instruments even have sleeved barrels which fit into a sleeve at the top of the upper joint to form a smooth surface when you pull out the barrell instead of a gap like the standard wood. Marigaux's are beautiful instruments but A's are hard to come by.

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