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Author: CuriousClarinet
Date: 2011-07-22 03:51
A different post got me thinking about this, but it isn't the first time I've wondered about it. Does anyone know of a company that makes a case that can fit one bass clarinet and one Bb clarinet? I looked at the Wiseman cases, but I honestly don't need a case to fit a whole baraje of instruments. Not to mention I don't have an extended range bass, so I doubt it would fit anyways. (and I don't like the design/think they kinda look like a lot of hassle.) Is the side pocket on the BAM trekking case big enough to put a Bb clarinet case in? I guess this isn't something I really need, but it'd be nice to not have to pack two cases around.. I have to put one down every time I want to open a door or something... (and sometimes I also have my A clarinet's case with me) I also dislike the case my Buffet 1183 bass came in. It's twice the size it ought to be, I guess I'm just curious and looking at different options.
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Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2011-07-22 04:30
would a tenor sax/clarinet combo case be a consideration
restated do dimensions between a bass clarinet and a tenor sax differ enough to make this an unworkable solution?
(an ordinary picture for size comparisons of the instruments)
http://www.anthonyisd.net/ahs/images/photos/Bari%20Sax,%20Tenor%20Sax,%20Tuba%20&%20Bass%20Clarinet.jpg
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2011-07-22 05:56
Re putting one case down to open doors, when I took my bass case and soprano case, my bass was on my back (like a back pack) and my soprano on my shoulder, so I had almost both of my hands free (one sometimes supporting the soprano case a bit).
I take one bass and one soprano about 95% of the time. I have the Wiseman and it's exactly great for that IMO. I have the smaller version (model A), wouldn't like the longer model B. I don't really have room for more clarinets because all my accessories are in there too. So for me it's perfect as one case/bag for all my clarinets and accessories.
As far as beig a lot of hassle, maybe it will be like that for me. For me it isn't. I'm guessing opening it (including all the inner velcros to take the clarinets out) would take about the same time as opening the two seperate cases. I don't mind the design because it's smaller and lets me take just one case.
The usual case is for a low C bass. You can ask about making a case for a low Eb bass and one other clarinet. It might be even much smaller and not necessarily more expensive (maybe even less? worth asking).
But if you just don't like the Wiseman.......
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2011-07-22 10:56
Hi,
I play a lot of shows and with the Reed III or IV book, often have BC and soprano clarinet. Many times, tenor sax is part of the mix or even bari. The Chicago book called for clarinet, BC, soprano sax, tenor, and bari sax as I recall.
Trying to solve the conundrum of getting from the car, in the stage door, down some steps (or up), into the pit, to my seat, getting everything unpacked and set up, and the cases stowed is tough. I have a BC that is a 5 piece with the appropriate case as well as a Protec Tri-pack (tenor, clarinet, flute) and also a Protec Tri-pack for alto. I've lashed the BC to the great Protec strap system but the journey from car to pit is still tough.
Then there is my shoulder bag with the stands, music, and other stuff.
I just do not see a way to easily combine BC and clarinet into one case. Then weight becomes an issue.
I'd be very interested to know what other doublers do.
HRL
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Author: 2E
Date: 2011-07-22 13:30
I recently bought one of these and have been very happy with it so far. They also do a plain bass clarinet case but cant tell if it would fit a soprano as well.
Was way way way cheaper than buying a Wiseman quad case ...
Hope this helps
2E.
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Author: A Brady
Date: 2011-07-22 14:53
When I purchased my Wiseman case, I specifically asked for a case to fit my low E-flat Selmer, but with an option to change it easily to fit a low-C instrument. I have since done this, simply removing one of the inserts, and my Buffet 1193 fits beautifully, along with one (or two) soprano clarinets.
Outstanding design and quality, with excellent portability (critical in an urban environment like NYC). The only downside is the expense and weight of the case, but I don't believe there is anything better on the market currently.
AB
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Author: CuriousClarinet
Date: 2011-07-22 15:02
Okay. Does anyone know how much heavier a Wiseman case A would be, compared to the original 1183 case? (I'm pretty sure the original is the same size/shape as the 1193 with a different interior.) Is the weight just not worth it? I don't really like using the shoulder straps on a case, (it's nice when I have to walk a distance though) so it is possibe to just hold the Wiseman like an ordinary clarinet case, or is that too awkward?
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Author: A Brady
Date: 2011-07-22 15:20
The weight is probably comparable to the Selmer case (it is with my 1193 case); the Wiseman can easily be carried in one hand by the leather handle, and the backpack option is great for hands-free use. This is a very solid and protective case, and is fairly heavy, so I wouldn't want to carry it for 5 miles at a time, but to fully protect these expensive and sometimes irreplaceable personal instruments in a portable package is my goal here, and this is accomplished.
The carbon fiber Wiseman case mentioned in another thread seems more practical in terms of weight, but the price may make it prohibitive for many players. Considering the cost of bass clarinets these days, however, a fully protective case should be considered a form of insurance.
AB
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2011-07-23 10:54
>> Does anyone know how much heavier a Wiseman case A would be,
>> compared to the original 1183 case? (I'm pretty sure the original
>> is the same size/shape as the 1193 with a different interior.)
From what I remember, the 1183 case is significantly smaller than the 1193 case. The 1183 case wouldn't fit a low C lower joint. I don't know the weight of the 1183, maybe check yours. I guess it would be slightly lighter than the 1193 case.
I might be able to check the weight of both 1193 and Wiseman model A cases. If you don't mind a Wiseman case ever being able to fit a low C bass clarinet, worth asking about a smaller case to fit a low Eb bass, it would be lighter and smaller. Probably best to ask Wiseman about it.
>> Is the weight just not worth it? I don't really like using the
>> shoulder straps on a case, (it's nice when I have to walk a
>> distance though) so it is possibe to just hold the Wiseman
>> like an ordinary clarinet case, or is that too awkward?
Worth it or not depends on you. If you don't like using the shoulder straps then I don't know. I haven't used my stock case since the day I got the Wiseman. I would use the straps even with the 1183 case (unless I had an even heavier instrument to carry on my shoulders). Obvioulsy with the soprano and all accessories for both clarinets in there it will be heavier. Most of the time I just carry it with one shoudler strap, "too lazy" to put both. I usually don't walk/stand with it like that for more than a few mintues. I might carry it like a suitcase (I don't like to unless I have to... with any case) if it's for a short time. I've walked with the Wiseman on both shoulders for a few hours, can't imagine holding it by the handle for that long unless I had to for some reason. If I didn't want a low C bass I would definitely ask about a smaller and lighter case for a low Eb model (and make sure to ask that it's not just the inside that is organized differently, but the case itself).
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Author: dansil
Date: 2011-07-24 08:04
Hi 2E
I've checked out the Bass Bags Quad Clarinet Case which is said to carry a bass clarinet and 3 soprano clarinets. However the quoted measurements of 80cm x 12cm x 12cm seem way too small to have that capacity. For example the bell of my 1193 Buffet is about 13cm diameter. Also the length of the lower joint from the bottom of the bell to the left pinky keys is 80cm so the quoted length of the case (presumably the quoted dimensions are external measurements for the purpose of carry-on luggage issues) so once again my 1193 wouldn't fit.
Perhaps they intend this case to be for a low Eb bass clarinet (I have one but have loaned it to a friend so I can't measure its bell diameter) which is smaller. However it seems amateurish for the company not to state anywhere in the item description that it is only for low Eb bass clarinets.
Are the quoted dimensions correct?
cheers, Danny
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