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Author: Carlos Martin
Date: 2001-01-25 11:06
I a looking for my 1st clarinet, and I´ve been advised to center the search in Buffet, Selmer, Leblanc & Yamaha...
Ok, I´ll try with Buffet: a couple of spanish proffessional clarinetists told me not to purchase an E-11 (the cheapest wooden Buffet , not counting E10, whoose bell is in fiber). The reason: because it is for "beginners", and time will lead necessarily to a more advanced one, looking for a better tune balance, intonation, articulation, ease of response.... So the advise was an RC Buffet or RC Prestige. The difference above the E11 is about 600$, which I can´t afford by the moment.
I´ve read in some forums the goodness of Buffet International, which also increases the needed budget up to 850$ (all prices considered here are spanish market´s) for an used instrument (a 2nd hand E11 is about 480$ here).
The solution seems to search a right "Selmer" choice, a maker which as I´ve read somewhere gives the best quality-price rate (being Buffet quite overpriced).
¿Can anyone suggest me an equivalent Selmer model to the Buffet RC or Intern
ational? I´ll really appreciate your advise.
Carlos Martín
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Author: Anji
Date: 2001-01-25 14:17
The Selmer 10G (earlier than 1978) is an even-tempered, well tuned R-13 clone.
It has many of the same shortcomings as the R13, many of the same strengths.
It does not seem to have the same cachet as a second-hand Buffet so the value can often be less.
I would offer the following advice on buying this horn, which it sounds like you may well keep for most of your playing career;
Play lots of horns, regardless of make. Go with the one that requires a modicum of effort to produce a good tone, the resistance will be helpful in dynamic playing.
Poll the repair depots for horns that have been pinned or otherwise repaired. These often have had significant price reduction without adverse playing consequence.
I play an Evette Master Model from 1972, and really dig it. It's not an R13, and didn't cost a fortune.
anji
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2001-01-26 01:45
I once had a 10G and liked it.
Someone once wrote here that 10G was designed by ex-Philadelphia principal
Anthony Gigliotti's meticulous comments based on his own Moenig tuned R-13.
So R-13's defects(intonation problems) may be somewhat countermeasured.
It sounds very warm,clear, and bright, which may be liked by Spanish people.
Its bore is 0.574", same with Buffet's standard bore size and air enteres very
smoothly into the horn.
I now uses a Selmer 10SII. I like its tone but I cannot let air enter smoothly
compared with 10G. Provably for its smaller bore size(0.563"?).
Selmer sells a smallest bore Recital. I never played this one. They say its sound
is very dark.
Selmer's present top line is Siganature. I never played this one either. Tom Ridenour represents his impression on this one 'German clarinet dark tone with
very much improved intonation and Boehm key system'.
Selmer does not like their discounted prices on woodwind shops' catalogue.
So it is necessary to inquiry actual prices to the shop you are going to buy one.
By the way each Selmer's instruments comes with very good mouthpieces.
10G may come with Gigliotti mouthpiece or C85-115 or C85-120. No need to buy
a mouthpiece.
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