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Author: Don Gross
Date: 2011-04-25 20:58
I think the United States might just be home to the clarinet word's next Julian Bliss. A few years ago I met young Andrew at a Los Angeles Clarinet Choir concert and was completely taken aback by his maturity even then. I would encourage you to view his performance in recital of three movements from Witold Lutoslawski's "Dance Preludes" on YouTube and judge for yourselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znkBCmyT7XA
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2011-04-26 00:16
Talented and charming...not related, sorry to say :(
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: Dileep Gangolli
Date: 2011-04-26 02:52
The kid has talent but needs a better teacher.
Overblown, lacks refinement.
But he can do the dance that these young kids do and he does have the talent that if used correctly could make for a good player.
Many are called but few are chosen.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2011-04-26 11:07
Too bad that by the time he's mature enough to play in a professional symphony orchestra, there won't be any left.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-04-27 01:02
Very impressive playing for his age, very impressive. I wasn't even playing an instrument at his age. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2011-04-27 01:49
Pretty cool. Hopefully he can keep up the enthusiasm and keep getting better!
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Too bad that by the time he's mature enough to play in a professional symphony orchestra, there won't be any left. Harsh, but eerily possible. I mean if the CSO can't manage.....
Alexi <- happy to have a job right now and hoping to keep it indefinitely...
US Army Japan Band
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Author: ned
Date: 2011-04-27 10:09
''Too bad that by the time he's mature enough to play in a professional symphony orchestra, there won't be any left.''
Of course, he may not want to join a symphony orchestra you know. That leaves open other opportunities such as light classics....I can imagine him fronting up with Andre Rieu.
Then there is always session work, teaching or.....even jazz........he certainly seems able ''to move''.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2011-04-27 10:16
Ned, do you believe there's any more session work or jazz gigs to be had, compared to classical? I don't. They're all dead or dying. I used to play jazz gigs nearly once a week, haven't had more than one or two a year in the past few years. Maybe the situation is better in Oz -- I sure hope so. As for young Andrew, he had better mind his schoolwork and get educated in something other than music if he wants to make a living as an adult.
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2011-04-27 18:08
Dileep wrote: "he kid has talent but needs a better teacher"
Considering that he is playing a piece which is rhythmically and harmonically tricky, with no mistakes, pretty good sound, intonation, articulation and musical phrasing, from memory, I'd say his teacher is doing a good job!
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Author: ned
Date: 2011-04-28 02:17
''Ned, do you believe there's any more session work or jazz gigs to be had, compared to classical? I don't.''
David, you are more than likely right.
I'm being tongue-in-cheek actually, as some people are presuming that this lad will gravitate automatically to classical.
I was actually trying to point out some other options.........two more of which come to mind.........community orchestras and the military. The latter of which pays more probably, than any of the other options.
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''I used to play jazz gigs nearly once a week, haven't had more than one or two a year in the past few years. Maybe the situation is better in Oz -- I sure hope so.''
Unfortunately the situation in Aust is dire, as well. I too, used to get jazz work at about the same rate myself in days of yore.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-04-28 15:57
I totally agree with Liquorice. The kids 11 for god sake. ESP
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2011-04-28 16:06
Lacks refinement? The kid's frickin 11! Give him a few years before you forcibly beat the joy of music out of him. Heaven forbid anyone actually enjoy playing music around here! Are we all on a mission to make everyone else as miserable as we while playing our instruments?
Also, classical and jazz aren't the only options, people.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Dileep Gangolli
Date: 2011-04-29 11:40
Obviously the point I was making was not understood.
> At age 11, this young man plays better than most of you ever will.
> He has gobs of talent and obviously works hard.
> The initial comparison was to Julian Bliss, who in my opinion, is the most gifted child prodigy on clarinet that I have experienced in my lifetime.
In order to get to the level that Julian Bliss plays at now, this child must get the type of coaching that Bliss was lucky to get with Paul Harris when Bliss was age 11.
Since the kid already seems to have technique and talent, in order to get his game up to the level of being able to bat with top hitters in the league, he needs to refine his playing and be able to make a personal musical statement.
I have no doubt that this young man has the ability to do it.
It just needs to be channeled correctly at this stage in his development.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2011-04-29 20:57
It wasn't understood. I thought it might just be some sort of one-upmanship on some piddly bit of the kid's technique and a holier-than-thou "I could teach him better" attitude. Now that I do understand it, I take MORE offense.
What makes you think his current teacher is not up to the task?
What makes you think "catching up with Julian Bliss" is a goal?
"Needs to be channeled correctly?" Are we grooming for some sort of "he is the chosen one, the golden child who can save our species from extinction" scenario? This is music, not the damned Jedi academy.
I have heard lots of people with great technique, "properly" coached, etc., who have studied with some of the greatest teachers out there, and who, imho, can't make a personal musical statement to save their lives. This kid, with his spontaneity, comes closer to that than people who have played for decades, who have had all the passion and enthusiasm slowly and systematically coached and educated out of them (with the best of intentions) in the interest of perpetuating some bullshit tradition.
I cry at the thought that a child with such wonder, such spontaneity, such joy in the act of music making might find himself in the clutches of the kind of killjoy that sees nothing in music other than "being able to bat with top hitters in the league." A world of infinite possibilities, that is constantly beaten and whittled down into a wretchedly samey game of replication.
Here is a musician who is darn awesome at something creative and you instantly want to ensure that he follows a very particular, well-established path to where very many people have gone before, simply because "he's good enough"?
Shameful.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: mihalis
Date: 2011-04-30 00:36
"OK...let's circle back in 20 years and see what comes of this."
See what?
As long as he is happy with what he is doing, thats what counts.
Mike.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2011-04-30 01:47
@Dileep
Sounds good to me.
In your best case scenario, we could guess now what would happen in 20 years. We could find someone right now in that position. No unknowns for performers sucked into the orchestral/soloist fast-track/rat-race, except maybe where they are in the pecking order. Only in divergence from the path does the possibility for true excellence, voice, and originality occur. Let's not be so fast to shuttle people into "you're atypically good at this, so now YOU MUST BECOME GREAT AT THIS! IT IS YOUR DUTY!" land.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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