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Author: wfg
Date: 2003-08-03 20:40
Upon updating the Woodwind Fingering Guide today, I realized that I now have thirds tremolo charts for all the common band/orchestra woodwinds except clarinet and bassoon, and such a bassoon chart is available online from the Int'l Double Reed Society web site. But as far as I know, there are no clarinet tremolo charts on the web.
Is there any interest for an online tremolo fingering chart for Boehm or Albert/Oehler clarinet? If so, would anyone be interested in helping me compile one?
Tim Reichard
http://www.wfg.woodwind.org
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Author: saxlite
Date: 2003-08-03 20:49
Love to see one!! Then I could play Tommy Dorsey's "Boogie Woogie".....
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Author: GBK
Date: 2003-08-04 00:35
I have contributed numerous fingerings to Tim's site, and highly recommend http://www.wfg.woodwind.org as an important online clarinet resource.
I am sure Tim would appreciate any and all tremolo submissions ...GBK
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Author: wfg
Date: 2003-08-05 04:34
And thanks for your help, GBK.
Also, there is a Suggested Fingerings for Musical Passages section at the IDRS's Bassoon Fingering site,
http://www.idrs.org/bsnfing/fingcomp.htm
where excepts of bassoon parts are given with suggested alternate fingerings for the passage. I'd be interested in starting up a clarinet version of this if there is interest--just send me an email. We've all encountered some passage that required some trick fingerings--this would be a great way to share them with the rest of the clarinet community.
Tim Reichard
http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/
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Author: mmgatekeep
Date: 2011-03-30 01:20
I am a composer who desperately needs a tremolo chart for clarinet and bass clarinet. Minor thirds to 5th's.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2011-03-30 06:03
To avoid writing unplayable tremolos in his compositions.
Karl
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2011-03-30 17:19
Running a draft of the piece past a clarinetist would be much more time efficient than using a chart for those purposes, and would get you a bunch of other valuable input as well.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2011-03-30 17:43
EEBaum wrote:
> Running a draft of the piece past a clarinetist would be much
> more time efficient than using a chart for those purposes, and
> would get you a bunch of other valuable input as well.
Like a plethora of new curse words. :-)
--
Ben
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2011-03-30 18:30
Indeed. Better the curse words occur before the piece is finished than afterward, though. "This passage frelling sucks to play" is a lot more helpful than "Frak this piece, I'm going to play something else."
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2011-03-31 15:02
When I was a kid, I found great joy in being able to play the "Never write this for a clarinet" examples in composition guides.
Oh, that was because i had a Full Boehm clarinet.
Bob Phillips
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-03-31 18:51
I have a trill and tremolo chart on the last page of my clarinet fingering chart on my website. It doesn't have really large intervals though. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: mrn
Date: 2011-04-03 00:32
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To avoid writing unplayable tremolos in his compositions.
Exactly...same reason Adler's orchestration book includes a fingerboard diagram for violin and why one famous composer-author I recall (I think it was Berlioz) once remarked that to compose for the guitar, you pretty much had to play the instrument yourself. (Of course, Berlioz was a guitarist, so if I'm right, it would make sense he'd say that.)
I also remember a passage from Aaron Copland's "How to Listen to Music" where he gives a hypothetical example of how one can write what seems like a perfectly sensible passage ideally suited for the tone of a clarinet, only to find the passage is unplayable or nearly so. (Given what many of us know about him and his clarinet writing, I suspect Copland was writing more from personal experience than as a hypothetical example....it certainly made me smile when I read it.)
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2011-04-03 04:41
Suppose I've always considered tremolos to be a poor-bang-for-the-buck technique for clarinet. Also, a good chunk of the time, the fingerings are either first-note-then-second-note, or ones the performer can figure out pretty quickly on their own, so not so much warranting a chart. That was more my thought with the question. Suppose it might be more useful in the altissimo.
My concern with a tremolo chart might be a composer over-writing for the instrument, providing fingerings for things that don't need fingerings, at which point the performer sometimes feels obligated to use the fingering given, or wonders why the composer found it necessary to write it in. Best case, to my preference, would probably be to write the fingering in and have a comment somewhere that the fingerings are suggestions.
So yeah, guess I could see it being useful.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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