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Author: Ashley
Date: 2001-01-16 21:01
I'm full of stupid questions today...
OK, i have a college audition a month from today, and i just now got my Bb piece. its in the Concert and Contest Collection (yet another thing edited by Voxman, and i'm going to the University of Iowa. The music building is called Voxman Music Building, and my private teacher/band director took lessons from him as an undergrad student when she was in college there), #4. Says its the Adagio from Concerto for Clarinet, K 622 by Mozart. I'm guessing this is part of THE mozart clarinet concerto i've heard so much about? Its really pretty, and i'm sure i can work it up in time. theres just a couple sticky fingerings that i'm working out. my other question - what does the K stand for? I hate these stupid abbreviations.. i only recently what "Op." means. I know, i'm stupid :(
We completely changed everything i'm playing for my audition, for bass i'm now going to play part of the same Marcello piece i've been playing since, uh, November 1999. Just the other day i noticed I have the Allegro part of it (which i played for all state auditions, among about 8 million other things) memorized when i caught myself playing it completely from memory.
Any help would be appreciated, but dont berate me for being stupid
*ashley*
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Author: J. Exner
Date: 2001-01-16 21:33
Yes--that is from THE Mozart Concerto. It's slow and pretty.
The K. is Mozart's own, unique cataloguing system.
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Author: Julia Meyer
Date: 2001-01-16 21:55
The K stands for Kochel numbers---used instead of opus numbers. That;s for mozart. The K is also used for another composer, Scarlatti, but it stands for Kirkpatrick (was the cateloguer of Scarlatti's works)
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Author: Al
Date: 2001-01-17 00:50
Ashley,
You're not stupid. You want to learn something new so you've asked about it.
Op. can stand for a couple of things.
1- Opus=work. Op.22 would be the composer's 22nd listed work.
You won't find this in Mozart's case however. As Julia says,Kochel is the way Mozart's works are catalogued.(K.)
2-Oppure (abbreviated <op.>. This is Italian for "or"...or
"otherwise".
We English speaking people translate it incorrectly as "optional".
You'll find this, possibly, at a cadenza where there are two versions written. One is usually less difficult than the other. One is usually written in normal size notation while the "op." is written on a smaller staff above the original.
Don't EVER call yourself stupid again!
So now you know two meanings of "op."!! See how many of your friends you can catch on second one.
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Author: Eoin McAuley
Date: 2001-01-17 07:47
You are right - the Adagio you are playing is from THE clarinet concerto by Mozart. Mozart only wrote one clarinet concerto. This is the middle movement and is one of the most sublime pieces of music ever written.
Mozart wrote about 630 different works and didn't give proper names to any of them. For a long time nobody could agree on which piano concerto was which (he wrote 26 of them) and various other pieces went by a few different names. A man called Köchel (also spelt Koechel) made a catalog of all Mozart's work, numbering them in the order they were written. These K numbers uniquely identify any piece by Mozart. You can see from the number of the clarinet concerto that it was one of the last things he wrote.
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Author: Gene Wie
Date: 2001-01-17 09:57
From http://www.acronet.net/~kb9chf/KochelCatalogue.html
In the decades following Mozart's death in 1791 there were several attempts to inventory his compositions, but it was only in 1862 that Ludwig von Köchel, a Viennese botanist, mineralogist, educator, and the source of the ubiquitous "K," succeeded in this enterprise. Köchel's stout book of 551 pages was entitled (in German) "Chronological-Thematic Catalogue of the Complete Musical Works of WOLFGANG AMADE MOZART. With an Accounting of His Lost, Incomplete, Arranged, Doubtful, and Spurious Compositions."This, the first rigorously scholarly thematic catalogue ever, has served as a model for cataloguing the works of many Western composers.
As his title suggests, Köchel took those works attributed to Mozart that he understood to be neither incomplete, arranged, doubtful nor spurious, and placed them in what he construed as their chronological order, from number 1, a tiny harpsichord piece that Mozart played to his father, who wrote it down, to 626, the Requiem on which he was working when he died. The advantages of chronology for biography are clear: a biographer must know not only what Mozart did but when and where he did it. And a chronological arrangement buttresses the prevailing narrative of Mozart's life, which stresses his precocity and early death. We want to be reminded that he was five when he conceived his first harpsichord piece, nine when he wrote his first symphony, twelve when he composed his first opera and first Mass, and thirty-five when he died in the harness.
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Author: Don Poulsen
Date: 2001-01-17 13:16
If you listen to classical music on the radio, you will often hear the announcer mention "Köchel Listing such-and-such" (not a direct quote) when announcing what is being played. "Köchel" is pronounced something like "Kerchel." Check with a German teacher to get a more precise pronunciation.
I had always wondered what a Köchel listing was. I've learned something today.
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Author: William
Date: 2001-01-17 14:58
Ashley: Good luck with our audition and your future study at the University of Iowa. If you play the Mozart, I suggest that you sub-divide the 3/4 counting eigth notes at about mm=88. It will be easier to keep the slow tempo steady and avoid the natural tendency we all have to rush. Later on, get a copy of the complete Concerto and memorize it. It is perhaps the single most important composition for clarinet that has been written to date. Almost every important professional audition requires performing at least some portion of it as a warm-up to the other excerpts. And, the only questions that are stupid are the ones that go unasked. Thank you for yours and again, good clarineting with the Hawkeyes!!!
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Author: jerry
Date: 2001-01-18 09:54
Ashley, I'm glad you ask these stupid questions, otherwise I would have to. How do you learn if you don't ask the questions - wait until someone else asks? I don't know much about music or the clarinet, that's why I'm here. However, my contribution here is to suggest that you eliminate the St.... word from your vocabulary - for ever. Okay?
Good Luck.
~ jerry
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