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Author: chuckndonna
Date: 2011-03-24 02:50
I have recently purchased and have been using the Vandoren B45 mouthpiece. I was using before the Olivieri 2.5 reeds but they don't quite fit the longer facing of the B45. I switched to the Vandoren V12 2.5 reeds but have found them stiff because of a thicker wood and more suitable to advanced clarinetists of which I am not. I am still in the Rubank Intermediate Book which tells you I am beyond beginner but still need reed flexibility as my embouchure is still not that strong. I am looking for recommendations of reeds that perform well with the B45. Thanks in advance. CABjr
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Author: Bb R13 greenline
Date: 2011-03-24 04:05
try the traditional 2.5 reeds. theyre softer than the v12s, on my b45 i use 3's because with 2.5s even clipped alittle they close up and dont produce a sound sometimes. for an intermediate 2.5s or 3 are fine.
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Author: sonicbang
Date: 2011-03-24 08:21
Traditional 3 is my choise for B45. I found it has a fuller tone on this mp than any V12 strength. Articulation is faster because of the thinner tip comparing to the V12. Of course you have to adjust the reeds in quite many cases.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-03-24 10:02
Can't go wrong with traditional but with the longer lay I use the 56 Rue Lepic.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2011-03-24 12:56
Since you find a V12 2.5 too hard, it should be obvious that a V12 3 is not a good idea. (I sometimes wonder if some people on this Board bother to read the posts they respond to.) If you look at Vandoren's reed recommendation charts, they still suggest that V12s are slightly lighter than the traditionals. That was certainly true at one time but is perhaps debatable now. Still, if you find V12 2.5s too stiff, it would not surprise me if you found traditional 2.5s too stiff as well. If you are going to stay with Vandorens, I would recommend you try traditional 2s and see how they work.
To be honest, however, at your level, you are probably not ready for the resistance of a B45 (which may be the real problem here) or "professional" (e.g., Vandoren) reeds. There are some teachers on this Board who successfully start their students on Vandorens but I think, for the time being, you might be best served by Rico Royal 2.5s or something similar.
Note that there are quite a few of us on this Board who believe the B45 is a very poor choice for students such as you who are still at a relatively early stage of development in their clarinet playing. I'm curious why you chose that particular Vandoren mouthpiece instead of one of their less resistant options and whether you tried it before you bought it to see how well it would work for you.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: clairmusic
Date: 2011-03-24 23:20
I would give the rico classic reserve reeds a try. they come in 1/4 strengths up to 4 1/2s. they seem to play right out of the box. they a easy responsexand are really focused. they were designed be Mark Nuccio pl. cl. of the NYP. I played on traditionals for 20 yrs and now I have switched to the rico's, although I still play on the vandorens depending on what I am pllaying. Gd luck!
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Author: chuckndonna
Date: 2011-03-25 02:15
jnk, thanks for your input. I was on the git-go with the Selmer-Paris 210 mp HS*. I thought by going to a less closed mp such as the B45 Traditional I would be able to push more air through. I think the B45 is a good mp, maybe a little before my time but when I try switching back to the Selmer I really have to push air for a decent sound.
It sounds like I know what I am talking about when perhaps I don't. I did try the B45 for a brief few minutes in the store. Maybe I should have insisted on a longer tryout for the price I paid.
With the Selmer I pretty much stuck with Olivieri 2.5 at my teachers recommendation. I tried Rico both traditional and their better quality reed and didn't care for either. I tried Vandoren Traditional with the Selmer also.
With the B45, while V12 is good its just too advanced for my ability. The Vandoren traditional works best....nice and thin and doesn't require much sanding to get performance. A lot of my problem is neither the mp or reed but my ability in eye-hand coordination such as required in "Satin Doll". I get what is called the death grip indentations on the finger tips. To overcome this I try overcompensating with the mp/reed. Sorry to go on. Your info was good and has me thinking. cabjr
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