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Author: grifffinity
Date: 2011-03-24 01:41
I think the highest paying job on this list is Kalamazoo Principle...which is about $23K. The others are mostly per service gigs ranging from about $70 - 110 per service...which as a third/bass player can be close to nil in a season. The Kalamazoo bass position guarantees 30 services at $96 per service.
Most of these jobs would be great opportunities for a local freelancer or college student. I personally (living in NJ) wont be spending 6 hours a day practicing a list for jobs halfway across the coutnry that pay $3K - 15K a year...on top of the airfare and hotel costs to attend the auditions. Then relocation costs if you actually win and live half way across the country.
For most of these auditions, the risk isn't even worth the reward IMO, but YMMV. Again, if you are local, it's a great way to get audition experience and make extra cash.
Best of luck to all that audition.
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Author: DAVE
Date: 2011-03-24 02:19
...and the army goes rolling along.
Seriously, a job that pays 65K of student loans, a steady gig that pays a decent starting wage, etc. AND there is a shortage of clarinetists! Shortage=signing bonus. Why wouldn't this be on your list?
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Author: salsacookies
Date: 2011-03-24 03:16
i live near boise and it seems like they have auditions for clarinetists every year to year and a half. nobody wants to stick around i guess.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-03-24 20:38
It's a little ridiculous for these orchestra's to ask people to go to their town to audition for a job that doesn't come close to paying a living wage. Yes' it's mostly for those that live in the area already because how many people can afford to spend the money for transportation and hotel to audition for a job that will barely pay back your expense of auditioning. When I was in school in the early 60s even the many major orchestra's came to NY and Chicago to hold auditions. No one had to go to any small orchestra's to audition either. When I was offered the principal job in the Hawaiian symphony when I was a junior in college, they auditioned in NY, I had to turn it down because back then they would only pay transportation one way from the West coast. I was very excited about being offered the job until I found out that they offered it to a lot of players because no one could afford to go because you couldn't save enough to get back. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2011-03-24 20:49
Dunno why small orchestras would even put out the word nationally. Part of the charm of a regional orchestra, to me, might be that it is made up of locals and is more in touch with local flavor and culture. Would make it more worth the trip to see a Hawaiian orchestra if it's played by locals, than if it's played by the same people who fly out to play in half the other orchestras in the west coast.
It's why I'd go to Vienna to hear Strauss waltzes.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-03-24 22:01
Good point about the Hawaiian orchestra but back in the 60s, and probably even today, they probably didn't have the quality musicians locally to have a quality symphony orchestra. There is something to be said about quality. When you play Brahms and Beethoven I think you need more than just local flavor, you get that in folk and popular music not symphony music. I agree about small local orchestra's though that pay by the service, as long as they can find players that can do a decent job playing their parts. i know many of those types of orchestra's near big populations have freelance musicians travel hours to perform with them. I know that's the case with several east coast "small" orchestra's. Local musicians should always be given first priority if they can play well enough in per service orchestra's. ESP
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2011-03-24 23:46
You get local flavor in symphony music; it's just more subtle. I enjoy playing a game of "guess that orchestra" with the radio on from time to time.
Local flavor, imho, is something that's missing from a lot of orchestras that could go far in making them more relevant to the surrounding communities and more distinct on a worldwide scale. People play differently when there's a personal connection to the group than when it's just whatever gig they're playing that night. Not that that can't happen for commuter players, but it's more built-in for locals, especially if they hang around in the same areas. It's trickier in the U.S. than, say, Vienna, because we're a thicker mix of cultures and styles.
We're getting a similar syndrome as pro sports, where the team grabs players from all over and it seems almost an afterthought whether the players feel a connection to where they're playing.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: clarinetwife
Date: 2011-03-25 02:19
EEBaum wrote:
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> We're getting a similar syndrome as pro sports, where the team
> grabs players from all over and it seems almost an afterthought
> whether the players feel a connection to where they're playing.
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Or a connection with each other. That is what is fun in many local scenes, especially in smaller ensembles and shows where you get to play with old friends.
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2011-03-25 02:47
Ed, was this the Honolulu Symphony or a different one in Hawaii?
Karl
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