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Author: Elifix
Date: 2011-03-15 17:55
Hi all,
I can't get the low Eb out in the 2nd movement... Pretty sure, it was probably written for a full-Boehm 'A' Clarinet...
Any tips or ideas on how you personally do it?
I tried burping down the instrument but, how on earth do u get so much burp out or at least enough burp to get a sound out?
I loosen my mouth till the point of no return, stuff the bell in between the knees, tried using a banana and stuff it in the bell at that point...
I'm pretty sure I would need to sing the Eb (and only the Eb) if this carries on...
Would using a softer reed be better?
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2011-03-15 18:36
I don't recall there being a low Eb in The Soldiers Tale, I'd have to check my part.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Elifix
Date: 2011-03-15 20:09
Oh, I forget to mention,
I am doing the arrangement for - Vln, Clar and Piano...
Many apologies...
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-03-15 20:29
If there is time for "alteration," your two options are to place a pre-cut (and marked for pitch) cone of construction paper into the bore. The other option I discovered quite by accident is that a wooden peg (more square for air to get aroung it) inside the bell will lower the pitch as well.
Depending on the notes around it (if you need an E natural right away or a third line B) you might not have the time to execute this.
I like the idea of transposing that one phrase up an octave best.
.....................Paul Aviles
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Author: mrn
Date: 2011-03-15 21:30
I have the score/parts. The note in question appears in mvt. II (Le Violon du Soldat) and it has brackets written around it, which indicates to me that Stravinsky would rather you leave the note out than play it up an octave.
If you look at the musical context, leaving it out actually makes a lot of sense. First of all, it's the end of a descending decrescendo'd passage, so you don't want it to stick out.
Secondly, that note (C3 at concert pitch) is also covered by the piano in that spot, so you don't lose any harmonic content by leaving it out.
Third, if instead of leaving it out you take it up an octave, you will get too much dissonance between the clarinet and the violin, which is playing a concert B and D just below the staff (treble clef)--that's a minor 2nd and major 2nd on either side of the clarinet's C. Assuming you could play the written Eb (way below the staff), those 2nds would instead be a major 7th and major 9th---much more pleasant intervals.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-03-15 23:20
I agree with mrn. Stravinsky seems to have known that most players would not be able to play it, the reason for the brackets. Don't forget, he transcribed this from 7 or 3 instruments. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
Post Edited (2011-03-15 23:21)
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Author: Elifix
Date: 2011-03-17 16:09
Hmm...
Okay, i think i will leave it out...
But have anyone done it before? Just curious to know how players have done it or have tried to do it...
Thanks alot!
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Author: Jeff Chan
Date: 2011-03-17 21:52
I've discovered the same thing as Paul. A Pack-A-Stand (I have no commercial affiliation) will wedge nicely in the bell and will sound a fairly well-in-tune Eb. The phrases in question are surrounded by long rests, giving plenty of time to insert and remove the "tuning peg."
Jeff
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