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 Crack-Top trill key
Author: andrewsong 
Date:   2011-02-23 00:51

I just found a crack which starts from the hole of the top trill key and goes down about 3/4 of an inch diagonally about "South-Southwest". It is very thin. It is a Buffet Tosca.

Is this in need of immediate care or am I able to put if off for a couple of day?

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 Re: Crack-Top trill key
Author: JJAlbrecht 
Date:   2011-02-23 12:02

I would get it fixed yesterday. Cracks that go through to tone holes are serious business.

Jeff

“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010

"A drummer is a musician's best friend."


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 Re: Crack-Top trill key
Author: Reedirect 
Date:   2011-02-23 13:10

absolutely gruesome. Needs to be fixed right now by a professional technician with glue, pins, or even a brace. Is it a greenline or a grenadill instrument?

Best
Jo

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 Re: Crack-Top trill key
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2011-02-23 14:32

Is your Tosca still under warranty? Don't do anything if it is as that could invalidate it.

You may be able to either get it repaired or get a new top joint under warranty if you return it to where you bought it from.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Crack-Top trill key
Author: andrewsong 
Date:   2011-02-23 21:11

The warranty ended a couple months ago. And it is grenadilla.

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 Re: Crack-Top trill key
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2011-02-23 22:17

You will have to get it repaired as soon as you can - and take it to someone who knows what they're doing.

Don't have it flush-banded with nickel silver bands as that looks hideous, though a far less conspicuous method of crack repair such as pinning or carbon fibre banding is your best bet (provided it's done well).

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Crack-Top trill key
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2011-02-24 06:14

Eventhough your warrenty ended a few months ago, some companies or dealers help because it's close. I had a Buffet barrel crack about a month or two after warrenty and the dealer replaced it for free.

Re the replacement joint, very often players choose to repair cracks vs. replacing joitns because repairing would keep the clarinet while a different joint can significantly change the tone/response of the instrument.

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 Re: Crack-Top trill key
Author: andrewsong 
Date:   2011-02-24 20:09

I am getting it checked tomorrow. And It is a just a surface crack; I cannot see anything on the inside of the clarinet and from the edge of the hole, it appears that it is not deep at all.

Surface cracks are easy to fix?

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 Re: Crack-Top trill key
Author: PrincessJ 
Date:   2011-02-24 21:44

Usually if they're mild they can be filled with a glue/grenadilla dust mixture (by a trusted professional). Not as bad as a full on crack, but you better get it fixed before it gets worse.

-Jenn
Circa 1940s Zebra Pan Am
1972 Noblet Paris 27
Leblanc Bliss 210
1928 Selmer Full Boehm in A
Amateur tech, amateur clarinetist, looking to learn!

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 Re: Crack-Top trill key
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2011-02-25 03:52

Bigger and deeper cracks are not necessarily harder to repair than smaller cracks. How much work it takes depends mostly on the type of repair chosen and how much of it is done. Pinning would depend on the number of pins, so same. Banding is also the same only depends on the number of bands. Filling a wider crack won't take that much more time than a smaller crack.

IME/O filling with glue (with or without wood dust added) can hold most cracks. But I've seen pinned cracks re-open too. That depends mostly on how much the crack "wants" to grow/open. Glue alone might actually hold a huge crack that has very little force left on making it grow and might not hold a tiny crack that is trying to grow with all its force. It depends and is unknown pretty much as it's something you can only know after the fact. BTW for very tiny cracks it's not really possible to add wood dust since they are too small for it to get into the crack (to use it, which looks better, you'd have to enlarge the top of the crack enough to allow it).

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