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 dilemna - r-13 vs leblanc classic
Author: bill 
Date:   2001-01-05 15:40

Need a little help - Have a nice leblanc classic (60's I think) with a vandoren mouthpiece. Just got hold of a real nice Buffet r-13 with a charles hay mouthpiece from late 70's. I have been playing for 1 1/2 years. The r-13 will cost about 400 more than the classic (1000). I thought (but what do I know) that the r-13 played easier and a little fuller and the classic was a little mushier. Any thoughts on what i should do.

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 RE: dilemna - r-13 vs leblanc classic
Author: Julia 
Date:   2001-01-05 16:08

A lot depends on your level and what you want to do in the future. I just got an r-13 for Christmas, and I love it---I'm still breaking it in, but it sounds great.
Julia

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 RE: dilemna - r-13 vs leblanc classic
Author: Bob Sparkman 
Date:   2001-01-05 17:14

I think the LeBlanc Classic is the "big bore" predecessor to the "Pete Fountain" model, and so is a rather specialized horn favored by traditional jazz players looking for a big low register sound. The Buffet would be a better bet for most players, in my opinon, tho' aspiring to Pete Fountain's sound is certainly righteous!

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 RE: dilemna - r-13 vs leblanc classic
Author: Dave Spiegelthal 
Date:   2001-01-05 18:54

Here's an idea --- Go WAY outside the box, dare to be different, expand the envelope, go buy an old Boosey & Hawkes "The Edgware" --- they're dirt-cheap on eBay, they're not bad horns, and they've got a WAY BIG bore! That'll show those sheep-types dutifully playing on their mainstream Buffets and Leblancs! Hah! And even if the riff-raff hate your sound, they'll admire your courage and individuality!

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 RE: dilemna - r-13 vs leblanc classic
Author: Bill 
Date:   2001-01-05 20:40

What is the ebay fascination with "The Edgeware" and all those B&H 2-20 models? I can guess that they (may) play better than French or US "intermediate" horns, but still, I am amazed at how they get snapped up. I now have a very nice B&H "Symphony" 1010 (let's talk about a WAY BIG bore!), and that is my claim to being out of the Opus/Festival/Signature clarinet loop.

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 RE: dilemna - r-13 vs leblanc classic
Author: Dave Spiegelthal 
Date:   2001-01-05 20:54

From my fairly limited experience, the wooden Edgwares are made out of a surprisingly attractive wood, and with the metal tenon caps that many of them came with, they just look nice! The keywork is rather heavy and clumsy (and some of them were made out of a weak and brittle cast metal), but they do "show" well, and they don't play half badly either. This is my theory of their attractiveness on eBay.

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