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Author: justme
Date: 2010-11-13 19:45
How British people greet you at the airport:
http://www.wimp.com/britishpeople/
"A critic is like a eunuch: he knows exactly how it ought to be done."
CLARINET, n.
An instrument of torture operated by a person with cotton in his ears. There are two instruments that are worse than a clarinet -- two clarinets
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Author: Loliver
Date: 2010-11-13 19:47
well, its far better than JFK, where you get met by a wall of disgruntled taxi drivers...
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Author: Bassie
Date: 2010-11-13 20:19
Seriously: don't expect this every time you fly into Heathrow!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-11-13 20:25
... and don't expect your luggage either!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2010-11-13 21:08
When I was transferring in Heathrow in 07, I was greeted with a one-carryon-only security line. A bag of chips would be considered a bag. After jettisoning a bunch of stuff, I entered the terminal/shopping-mall, from which I could bring any amount of purchases onto the plane.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: interd0g
Date: 2010-11-16 21:02
They stopped the line at HR when the xray operator failed to recognize my saxophone.
An immaculate epauletted senior security office was summoned.
After a brief look he said " Sax, sax, sax - that's all anyone thinks about these days". All tension was released and we felt good.
I wish the TSA would do their job with a little compassion and humor.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2010-11-17 14:08
If the TSA gets any more extreme with these body-searches, pretty soon the only people who will apply for those jobs are (1) those so chronically unemployed that they're desperate for any paying work they can get and (2) perverts. If I didn't have relatives in their late 80s and early 90s living on the opposite side of the continent from me, I wouldn't fly any more.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2010-11-17 14:32
Lelia. as someone who recently worked (for a relatively short time) with the TSA in the field of airport security screening, I can provide a few observations:
1) The extreme pat-downs are only used on passengers who either refuse the electronic scans, or go through the scanners and show indications of carrying something concealed. Thus it's probably a small percentage of passengers who get patted down.
2) The vast majority of TSA personnel, at least among those I worked with, get no enjoyment from the new, more invasive patdown techniques. In fact, most seemed to be unhappy with having to do them, but they are generally dedicated and conscientious people and understand the importance of what they're trying to accomplish.
In a perfect world, people would not have to decide on where to draw the line in balancing personal freedom against security and the public good. But the world is very far from perfect.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2010-11-17 15:13
Lelia Loban wrote:
> If the TSA gets any more extreme with these body-searches,
> pretty soon the only people who will apply for those jobs are
> (1) those so chronically unemployed that they're desperate for
> any paying work they can get and (2) perverts.
3) Ex-prison guards
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2010-11-17 15:17
David Spiegelthal wrote:
> In a perfect world, people would not have to decide on where to
> draw the line in balancing personal freedom against security
> and the public good. But the world is very far from perfect.
So true.
I would be happy to spend money to get an expedited card like they have at the land borders with Canada. I don't have one for Canada since I don't go through Canada more than 2 or 3 times a year (shortcut from detroit to Rochester) and I'm not under time pressure, but if I could essentially skip security at the airport by having an extensive security check done & documented for a few hundred dollars a year I'd do it.
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2010-11-17 17:59
Lelia Loban wrote:
> If the TSA gets any more extreme with these body-searches,
> pretty soon the only people who will apply for those jobs are
> (1) those so chronically unemployed that they're desperate for
> any paying work they can get and (2) perverts.
Don't forget to include retired proctologists in the possible employment list. And laid-off Mall Cops.
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2010-11-17 18:07
Actually, you'd be surprised at the diversity of TSA personnel. While it's true that many of them don't have much of an academic background, a fair number are older folks that have retired from their careers and just want to do something with their time, maybe travel a bit. I talked to a few such people who actually had advanced degrees and were very articulate. But on the other hand, there were some.......
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