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Author: MichaelVT
Date: 2010-11-04 16:11
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I was given an old wood clarinet that on the bell it says Buffet Crampon & Cie and the other parts is stamped Selmer. The little research I did do shows they are two different companies, I think. I don't know if it's a Selmer with a Buffet bell or a Selmer/Buffet, if there is such a thing. The SN stamped on one of the parts is 9871 which if it's a Buffet it was made in 1931, I believe?
Could someone help me determine who manufactured the clarinet?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-11-04 16:25
It's a Selmer clarinet with a Buffet bell.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2010-11-04 16:57
It was made by one Robert Bidochon who married a certain Raymonde Née Malernay who in turn had a short affair with a bellboy from an unnamed hotel near Rue Lepic. History is getting a bit sketchy from 1958 onwards.
Oh heck, Chris' analysis was a bit more concise. Listen to him.
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Ben
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Author: jasperbay
Date: 2010-11-04 16:58
Ditto what Chris says. Normally a Buffet bell on a Selmer would be a 'bad thing', but since your clarinet and bell are both "professional" models, the value wouldn't be too adversly effected (if desired, you or a future owner could probably sell the Buffet bell for more than enough to allow the purchase of a Selmer bell).
What would effect the monetary 'value', but not the 'playability' is the extra german silver band on the upper joint, probably an old 'crack' repair.
Still a nice clarinet, should play fine with a little work done! Good Luck!!
Clark G. Sherwood
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2010-11-04 17:18
Clarinets made from dissimilar manufacturers will undergo Galvanic Clarosion and will disintegrate within weeks. Don't say I didn't warn you.
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Author: MichaelVT
Date: 2010-11-04 17:21
Great, thank you for the info everyone.
Have a good day/evening.
Michael
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Author: MichaelVT
Date: 2010-11-04 17:29
Thank you David for the information regarding "Galvanic Corrosion." I will monitor the situation.
Michael
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Author: avumback
Date: 2010-11-04 19:43
It seems that we wonder about something thats odd. The upper and lower joint should always be identified and compatible. The remaining parts of a clarinet are many times add on's especially with a vintage clarinet. Have fun.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-11-04 20:59
... and also on a lot of current clarinets where players have bought aftermarket barrels and bells for them.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2010-11-05 14:36
The flea market cockroaches among us call those clarinets with pieces from more than one instrument "marriages." If you've seen the movie "The Princess Bride," you know how we pronounce the word "marriage."
I avoid buying those instruments. Even if the married-up clarinet is in playable condition and sounds good, the resale value stays in the basement.
No doubt sometimes clarinet marriages work out well, if an instrument gets damaged and someone knowledgable selects a compatible replacement part carefully. Unfortunately, a lot of these marriages are the quickie shotgun variety. I think a lot of them happen in school band rooms. The band teacher at a school with a tight budget keeps wrecked school instruments as "parts horns" and mixes the salvagable sections as well as possible. Repair shops perform marriages, too. Some techs are better at arranging matches than others.
Lelia
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Author: avumback
Date: 2010-11-06 20:18
"If it fits it ships". Depending on the style and fit of the Bell or Barrel that is married to the upper and lower joints an altered clarinet could play well and maybe the sound is slightly differant than a standard horn that hasnt been altered.
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