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 High G side fingering flat
Author: TomD 
Date:   2010-10-29 16:19

I have a Yamaha CSG-h that I absolutely love. The only complaint is that the side fingering using the first trill key for altissimo G is a bit flat, especially compared to the alternate fingering. I compared it to my 45 year old R13 and it is also a bit flat but not quite as bad. Is this a common problem for that note/fingering?

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 Re: High G side fingering flat
Author: claritoot26 
Date:   2010-10-29 16:29

Yes, that is a common problem for that fingering. I usually only use it for trills. A sharp fingering is: oxo|xxo plus the pinky Eb key. One that is a little less sharp is:
oxo|xox plus pinky Eb key. See if one of these works better for you.

Lori

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 Re: High G side fingering flat
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2010-10-29 16:55

I have taken to using the more standard (first of left, first/second of right and "Eb" key vent) where ever possible but using the "C#" key for a vent (instead of "Eb" key) will help the pitch for the sidekey version.




.................Paul Aviles (CSG-H user)


P.S. The standard barrel (56.5 mm) is almost an equivalent to a Buffet 67 mm. If you haven't investigated a 53.4 mm yet, I strongly suggest you do.



Post Edited (2010-10-29 17:00)

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 Re: High G side fingering flat
Author: TomD 
Date:   2010-10-29 17:13

Paul thanks, the C# as a vent opens the G up nicely. There a many pieces where a scale runs up and ends of the G. If that is the final note, it really stands out even if it is just a bit flat.

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 Re: High G side fingering flat
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2010-10-29 17:49

The high F#, as well as the side key G are usually a bit flat on most clarinets. If the F# is low the G follows. I use the fork key, also known as the banana or sliver key, in the right hand for both of those fingerings when I need to. Of course there are many other fingerings for both those notes that are better in tune but sometimes the passage is easier when using that G fingering. Also, depressing the side throat tone G# key will raise the pitch of those notes. I need to do that for my high E which tends to be a bit flat on my clarinet. I have several good fingerings on my chart on my website if you're interested in checking the out. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: High G side fingering flat
Author: donald 
Date:   2010-10-29 19:30

As a 13 year old without the guidance of a teacher, way back in the years that began with 198?, i "made up" all my altissimo fingerings and came up with this for high G

TR 0X0 000 with the Eflat/Bflat side key AND the C#/G# key (which i believe i now find too sharp to use)

Now, as a professional musician, have at least 6 fingerings that i use in different situations- depending on intonation (matching other instruments, or matching the notes that come before) etc I find that teaching students altissimo notes is very interesting- for their "first high G" different fingerings will work for different students (and different approaches to the note).

Ed mentions the use of the chromatic "banana key", and this is very useful if you approach high G with a scale... using the standard F#, then switching to...
TR X00 000 (with both R little finger E flat + banana key). This usage of the Banana key seems a little awkward at first, but you soon get used to it.
dn

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