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Author: William
Date: 2010-10-01 15:13
I cant' believe what some of these old mpcies are going for. It's almost tempting to put mine up for sale and get out my old WW G8 which, in some ways, plays much better anyhow. Just commentary this am.........cheers everyone.
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Author: salzo
Date: 2010-10-01 15:41
Hold onto it. It will be worth more in a few years.
I just recently purchased an old plastic clarinet at an agricultural flea market. It had a $50 price tag on it, but another customer informed him it was missing the bell and barrel, so he said I could have it for $20- I bought it.
Oh yeah-there was an old rod rubber chedeville mouthpiece in the case. I was planning on having it refaced, but after seeing one just go for $900 on Ebay- I think Ill just keep it the way it is, maybe sell it in the future. Im sure it will gain more value then if I was to sell it now, and put the money in the stock market.
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Author: William
Date: 2010-10-01 16:31
Lucky you!!!! I'm still hoping for that Picasso behind an old family pic.....lol
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Author: salzo
Date: 2010-10-01 18:23
Yeah sure was lucky. I was rushing to finish the transaction and get out of there, because I was afraid I was going to wake up.
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Author: salzo
Date: 2010-10-01 18:57
Ken-
I am not sure if you were asking about my mouthpiece or Williams.
The Chedeville has a very nice sound-the facing is not quite what I am accustomed to, but it is close, and I could probably get used to it pretty easily if I decided to make it a primary.
The condition is very good. Does not look old, so I assume it wasn't played all that much. There is a nick on the side of the beak, not bad, and it does not extend to the facing side.
It is a #5, which I assume is a closer facing.
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2010-10-01 19:26
One Kasper just sold on Ebay for over 1000 bucks. Insane. There are some really good mouthpieces that sound as good or even better. Of course you need someone like me, not to brag, to rework these new future treasured mouthpieces. A really good mouthpiece tech can do wonders to mouthpieces, old and new.
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
Post Edited (2010-10-03 21:41)
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2010-10-01 19:29
Bob Bernardo wrote:
> One Kasper just sold on Ebay for over 1000 bucks. Insane.
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Insane indeed. It's a mouthpiece, no? Or does it lend superpowers to its owner?
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Ben
Post Edited (2010-10-01 19:30)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2010-10-01 19:37
Let's see....... a mouthpiece that sold for $40 dollars in the '70s is now worth over a thousand dollars. That means Brad Behn's $700 mouthpiece will be worth $18,000 in about forty years.
I'm stocking up right now.
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2010-10-01 19:58
I've tried many Kaspars and Chedevilles in my day, as well as those thay say they make "copies" and never found one I really liked. Yea, some played OK for me but none that I ever tried ever sounded or felt as good as what I was already using at the time. With so many great MP manufactures, both private and companies today, I simply can't see anyone paying that kind of money for a MP unless it made you sound so great that you would be the wonder of the clarinet world.
Would I pay 1K for a mouthpiece, sure if it made every reed I put on it sound like Harold Wright or Iggy Gennusa (you can put your own favorite tone in this place) but I haven't found that yet, have you? I haven't even found one that made even a few reeds sound that way no less every one in the box. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Ed
Date: 2010-10-02 14:24
That market seems to be very variable. I have seen some pieces go for crazy money and others barely get bids. A lot depends on the vintage, markings, condition and having the right bidders with the $$ and desire. Alignment of the stars and planets may be having some effect as well.
There is no guarantee of anything. I have tried some that have all of the "right" markings that are not as good as many of the modern mouthpieces from the great craftsmen of today.
There are many things to keep in mind. Many have been refaced or altered. They are very variable and every mouthpiece is different. Even if it is untouched and it is said to play amazingly well does not meant that it will play well for you.
It is probably a better bet for many to try to find one from a contemporary maker. It is more easily replaceable. You have many from which to choose. You can discuss your particular needs and have it customized to your playing and desires. The maker often has a basic design as a starting point. If you get a vintage mouthpiece there are often certain aspects such as baffle, bore, etc that may not be optimal. A good craftsman would have to compensate for those factors.
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Author: Bill Patry
Date: 2010-10-02 15:46
Ed is right, things are variable. I bought a Frank L. Kaspar Ann Arbor, never played, for $350.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2010-10-03 11:22
Hi William,
Your Kaspar story resonates with me for another reason. It seems that over the years, I have acquired some pretty coveted clarinet and sax MPs and ligatures (certain Selmer Soloist, Harrison, Stoll Wells Schneider, and even certain Bilharts). All are not my primary choices anymore and are safely boxed. So maybe this winter, I'll cash in some of these beauties.
HRL
PS I have flunked retirement again and "work" at a small university in Indiana that has a large bass drum as well as an aviation program. You may have seen this drum during your Wisconsin marching band days.
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