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 Any tips for the trills in Weber no.1 mvt III?
Author: Plonk 
Date:   2010-09-19 15:08

In bar 310 and 347 what's the best way to execute these?

Listening to recordings isn't helping me as they are usually played so fast I can't tell what's actually happened..

I'm starting the trill on the note itself in each case, but in playing like this in a "measured" way, most trills obviously finish on the note needed to start the next trill, e.g. B-C trill then C-D trill means there is an awkward bit with 2 C's together, unless it's not played in measured way, or is it played in a measured way with a triplet at the end? I can't help feeling that the penultimate D trill should have some sort of ornamental turn style D-E-D-C-D at the end before the E is played - or would that be silly?



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 Re: Any tips for the trills in Weber no.1 mvt III?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2010-09-19 15:35

IMO, you'd end the trill on its main note then articulate the beginning of the next trill. If they're slurred (I can't remember right now whether they are) then just wiggle the fingers and remember to end on the main note of the trill.

You could put the turn on the D but I prefer it without. I still haven't purchased a decent edition of the piece, however, and the Fischer edition I got 25 years ago is increasingly annoying to me.

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 Re: Any tips for the trills in Weber no.1 mvt III?
Author: Plonk 
Date:   2010-09-19 16:08

I've got the Boosey and Hawkes edition dated 1962. There are no slurs marked, just one trill over all the notes up to the penultimate D. Each crotchet is accented.

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 Re: Any tips for the trills in Weber no.1 mvt III?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2010-09-20 00:32

In that case, I would tongue and breath accent the beginning of each trill, ending each trill on the "main note" instead of the upper note.

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 Re: Any tips for the trills in Weber no.1 mvt III?
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2010-09-20 03:19

My edition has accents over each trill note, the International _ Kell edition. Yes, you should begin and end each trill note on the note written, tongue each new not as you ascend. Basically you want to play five notes on each trill if the tempo is quick enough, seven if possible but good luck to doing that. GAGAG, etc. ESP www.clarinetconcepts.com

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 Re: Any tips for the trills in Weber no.1 mvt III?
Author: Noqu 
Date:   2010-09-23 18:49

You may also want to try slowing down the recording. One possibility to do that is to use the free Audacity audio editor - the "change tempo" command changes the tempo without affecting pitch. Doesn't sound exactly pretty, but usually good enough to "dissect" a passage.

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