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 Ideal tone
Author: Koo Young Chung 
Date:   2010-09-12 15:36

This question is mainly for the non-professional members on this BB.

My question is:

Do(would) you recognize if you have a really,really good tone with your own set up when you're practicing?

(that is, clarinet+barrel+reed+weather+whatever makes it special)

Or you may be still looking for the ideal tone without realizing you already had ideal tone/sound, however fleeting it was.

In other words,how concrete(sure) is your idea of an ideal tone?

Is it something vague like the tone you heard on your favorite player's CD or

do you have specific and definite idea what it should sound like.

Koo Young Chung
(intermediate level player)



Post Edited (2010-09-12 22:58)

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 Re: Ideal tone
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2010-09-12 16:28

Think you hit the nail on the head there.

I aim for what I consider decent tone and direct most of my efforts toward technique, interpretation, musicality, experimentation. In my opinion, a lot of the clarinet world gets so caught up in some lofty tone ideal that they end up with a really nice sound that's horribly boring to listen to.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: Ideal tone
Author: Plonk 
Date:   2010-09-12 16:38

I think I do recognise when I have a good tone, and when I do, I also play better overall maybe because it's motivating to hear it! For me it really depends on the reed and I think there is a huge difference in tone when I swap reeds sometimes, although when I ask my husband he can't detect any difference (but he's not particularly musical).

I think I do have a pretty concrete idea of how I want to sound, although I don't often achieve it!

I'm an advanced (non pro) player.

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 Re: Ideal tone
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2010-09-12 23:01

This is actually a great scientific subject as well as an emotional subject.

For me, and I would think many others, can't really hear their sound quality.

If you record yourself playing you will most likely be surprised with what you here. While playing your horn I believe you hear one sound, then when you listen to a tape you may often be surprised of what you actually sound like. Sometimes good and sometimes worse.

You can surely rely on your teacher for help to get that right sound quality, but also pick up a decent recorder, or a good mic. You can use a mic and plug it into your computer.

This often helps pick out the right setup for you, regarding mouthpieces, actual clarinets, barrels and reeds. Often when you hear yourself play the reed may be too soft, too hard, out of balance, poor quality, and even the brand of reeds can make a difference. Mouthpieces are actually a never ending subject.

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 Re: Ideal tone
Author: 2cekce 2017
Date:   2010-09-12 23:06

I'm an advanced (non-pro) player as well although I believe ones tone will be unique to that individual one can try to achieve what they think is the ideal tone or in my case I strive to achieve Benny Goodmans tone even though I know I will never achieve it so I strive for a tone thats unique to me and many have told me btw that I do have good tone.

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 Re: Ideal tone
Author: dansil 
Date:   2010-09-13 03:17

How you hear yourself can vary significantly if you alternate between double- and single-lipping. With your teeth directly in contact with the MP you will have a dramatically increased amount of bone conduction of sound to your ears whereas with your teeth separated by some upper lip (with double-lipping technique) bone conduction is dramatically reduced. So you hear your tone very differently.

We hear ourselves very differently from how others hear us. For example, one only has to listen to a recording of one's speaking to hear how different our voice MAY sound to other. I'm sure the clarinet sound we produce is no different.

In the end this is NOT scientific and can never be scientific. It all comes down to the old saying "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"!

Cheers, Danny Silver

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