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 College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: suavkue 
Date:   2010-09-06 17:54

Hello everyone,

I am a first-year college student going for a BM-Clarinet Performance - I did my auditions, and made it into one of the orchestral positions. The repertoire this year, from what I know, is:

1) Symphony #1 - Shostakovich
2) Capriccio Espangole - Rimsky-Korsakov
3) Pictures at an Exhibition - Mussorgsky-Ravel

I'm particularly concerned about the Capriccio, particularly the ending - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STAJb5FoVBc (add #t=07m55s to the end of this link). How am I supposed to tongue that fast?

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My current equipment:
Ridenour Lyrique 576BC, Rico Reserve 4, Ridenour Hand Finished Mouthpiece, Luyben Ligature

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2010-09-06 18:11

That's what college is for... finding answers to those sorts of questions.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: Connor 
Date:   2010-09-06 19:05

Don't worry about it unless its on an audition. Slur two tongue two, let the flutes & violins do all the work..............

I would be more worried about Shostakovitch Symphony #1, there are some real knuckle busters in there.

MM. Clarinet Performance University of Texas at Austin (2012).
BM. Clarinet Performance University of Northern Colorado (2010).

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: JJAlbrecht 
Date:   2010-09-06 19:19

As above....that's why you pay the professors the big bucks: TO TEACH YOU!

Good luck and enjoy.  :)

Jeff

“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010

"A drummer is a musician's best friend."


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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2010-09-06 20:26

Crap Videographer. They show a closeup of the violin while the Clarinetist is doing his Cadenza, and pan to Gergiev conducting with a toothpick..............


;)


Gergiev is known for quick tempi, don't worry!

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: JAS 
Date:   2010-09-07 02:02

"I would be more worried about Shostakovitch Symphony #1, there are some real knuckle busters in there."

Haha....I agree with connor

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: suavkue 
Date:   2010-09-07 02:28

Thanks, everyone. I'm starting tomorrow - and I don't even have the sheet music yet - I'm expecting to get it tomorrow morning. The Capriccio is the only part of the three that I have complete access to; I managed to find three excerpts of the Shostakovich in (I believe) an audition packet for the Chicago Symphony Orchestra - I think I might as well work on the Shostakovich instead. (I'm staring at the packet, and I'm glad that the orchestra isn't playing his 9th...) I'm surprised by the amount of clarinet students that the professor here has - I'm only meeting with him for a half hour every Friday.

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My current equipment:
Ridenour Lyrique 576BC, Rico Reserve 4, Ridenour Hand Finished Mouthpiece, Luyben Ligature

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2010-09-07 02:40

Only a single 1/2 hour lesson a week????????????

I could see that for maybe an Ed major, but no way for a performance major.
Even for Ed that's really short.

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: suavkue 
Date:   2010-09-07 02:44

Most of his students, at least what I figured from the ensemble auditions, are Music Ed. majors - I'm going to talk to him about possibly adding more time tomorrow morning.

EDIT: I think how it works in this case is that since there are two "levels" of lessons in this university (basically there are these two: "freshman & sophomore" and "upperclassmen"), time is allocated as it is. I'm staring at the lesson schedule, and it seems as if the upperclassmen go for an hour per week. Still, I'll talk to him about it...

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My current equipment:
Ridenour Lyrique 576BC, Rico Reserve 4, Ridenour Hand Finished Mouthpiece, Luyben Ligature

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: Tobin 
Date:   2010-09-07 03:06

suavkue:

I'm guest prof of clarinet at a university with a program like you describe: all the majors however, ed or perf, get an hour.

I don't understand how you are expected to excel with so little time. I hope you are able to get the time you deserve!

James Tobin

Gnothi Seauton

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2010-09-07 04:56

According to the Wisconsin Eau Claire schedule of courses, Music 160 (the freshman/sophomore applied music - clarinet study course) is a variable credit course (1-4 units). When you registered for classes, did the music department (your adviser) tell you how many units to register for? At most universities, the number of units determines the length of lesson.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: suavkue 
Date:   2010-09-07 12:36

3 credits, exactly as many that I am *supposed* to apply for as a BM-Performance.

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My current equipment:
Ridenour Lyrique 576BC, Rico Reserve 4, Ridenour Hand Finished Mouthpiece, Luyben Ligature

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2010-09-07 18:18

Capriccio can be really hard. I've heard a lot of people mess that up. It's often used for the sight reading when auditioning for a college to a symphony orchestra. Even the top end military bands may require this piece for the sight reading part of the audition. They did this with the DC Air Force audition way back in the early 80's. This is one of those pieces that you should always have under your belt; meaning you may wish to practice it every month or 2, perhaps for an hour or so. With Capriccio in the first movement I would suggest not playing the measure before the solo's. Let the assistant first player play that measure. This will give you a chance to take a breath and hit the solo's dead on.

Shostakovich has some interesting fingerings that you need to practice everyday, since you are performing it. In some ways it is much harder than Capriccio. Depends of how fast you can articulate and keep up with the notes.

You can probably ask the conductor how to get an advanced copy of both pieces. Also are you the solo clarinetist? If not, this will take some pressure off of you, but you still have to remember the second clarinet parts are often hard because of playing over the break.

I'm greatly bothered by the 1/2 hour lesson time. It's not right. When other colleges REQUIRE performance majors to have an hour lesson, its for a reason. To pound as much music into your brain as possible. See how it goes for the first semester or the first year. If you aren't satisfied look for another school. Again, this isn't fair, you need the hours.


Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces


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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: gsurosey 
Date:   2010-09-18 00:55

I got my BA at Oswego St. (NY). There were 4 ways to register for lessons on any instrument. There were: lowerclassman 1/2 hour, lowerclassman hour, upperclassman 1/2 hour, and upperclassman hour. I'm not sure if majors were required to register for an hour or not. I know that non-majors had the option of 1/2 or hour (I took the hour when I became a major).

Rachel

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: suavkue 
Date:   2010-09-18 01:07

Before anyone puts in any additional discussion, I'd like to say that I've already resolved this issue with the professor. Apparently, what he does is he puts everyone on a 1/2 hour lesson for the first semester of each year (including Juniors, Seniors, etc.). I'm not sure why he does this, but if he didn't, there wouldn't be enough time for him to teach, given his hours.

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My current equipment:
Ridenour Lyrique 576BC, Rico Reserve 4, Ridenour Hand Finished Mouthpiece, Luyben Ligature

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2010-09-18 01:50

Sounds like the school needs more clarinet professors.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: suavkue 
Date:   2010-09-18 01:55

I agree - there's only one. He's a good teacher, I'll say, but he's busy - it's really hard to get in contact with him at times because he's busy during most of the day.

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My current equipment:
Ridenour Lyrique 576BC, Rico Reserve 4, Ridenour Hand Finished Mouthpiece, Luyben Ligature

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2010-09-18 02:03

That some B.S.

I'd never send a student there for performance if that's the time given for lessons.

They need to hire another Professor to split the time. Otherwise they probably shouldn't have any performance majors. (don't care who nor how "good" the instructor is, that's just not close to being enough time).

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 Re: College Orchestra Repertoire
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2010-09-20 05:46

I would demand an hour lesson. If they reject you think seriously about another quality music school.

You are majoring in performance remember that places like Eastman, Curtis, Cleveland, Indiana U, Yale, and many more, all have 1 hour lessons. As a performance major in 4 or so years, these students are your competition. So the longer you wait for that one hour lesson the harder it will be to transition into other music schools.

Good luck and let us know the final results and your thoughts. One last thought is a dual major. Performance and Education or you can skip the education degree and also taking a look at music theory, composition, conducting, sight singing and ear training, whatever else you are interested in as your double degree. These ideas could help you land a university level position along with your performance degree and something else. Sometimes this could add an extra year to your degree.


Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces


Yamaha Artist 2015




Post Edited (2010-09-20 06:06)

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