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 Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: jacoblikesmusic 
Date:   2010-08-21 19:49

I read the trial policy stated on one website said that mouthpieces must be trialed with a mouthpiece cushion. This may sound like a stupid question but how do you take the cushion off because the adhesive is pretty strong.

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: clarinetguy 2017
Date:   2010-08-21 20:17

I don't currently use a mouthpiece cushion, but I have in the past. There's a good one that's black, peel and stick, and I think it's made by Runyon. They peel off easily and don't usually leave much residue. Any residue that's left can easily be removed with a little rubbing alcohol.

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: William 
Date:   2010-08-21 20:27

They all come right off quite easily--sometimes, even, when you don't want them too........ Just start one corner and peel.

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2010-08-21 22:44

You can also cut a small tab of electrical tape and use that. It's just to protect the beak from getting scratched.

Alexi

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: pewd 
Date:   2010-08-21 22:52

yup, what alexi said - black electrical tape, then remove it after you test out the mpc.

- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: NBeaty 
Date:   2010-08-22 00:32

Many mouthpiece patches will come on and off many times without leaving anything. At *name here*'s mouthpiece table at ICA we had some of the black BG patches that were constantly being peeled off and switched with no problems whatsoever. The only ones that I can think of that are TERRIBLE to take off are the yamahas.

Like most things, you get what you pay for. BG patches have been good for me.

Best of luck getting that thing to come off cleanly!

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2010-08-22 02:50

Yes. The Yamahas do leave a residue. Electrical tape is relatively inexpensive and a roll will last a long time.

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2010-08-22 17:02

I totally agree, Electrical tape, so it's unanimous. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2010-08-22 17:34

You can also put paper on most of the glue side of the cushion, leaving just the tinyest of exposed glue to make it stick. Then you have a lot less glue to deal with when removing.

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2010-08-23 16:07

Just to refine the electrical tape discussion. I find electrical tape too elastic to be of use over a prolonged amount of time (that is, long enough to begin to wear a hole in it). I much prefer Scotch Plastic tape (preferably in black).

As for the more expensive, commercial alternatives Runyan and BG are very good (and I believe they both offer various thickness choices for the added expense as well).





................Paul Aviles



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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: Matt Locker 
Date:   2010-08-23 16:25

re: electrical tape......

Use two or three layers or you will still mark the beak over time.

MOO
Matt

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2010-08-23 17:40

I've found plastic (electrical) tape good enough at protecting the beak from teeth marks while I'm trying mouthpieces "on approval," which is what the OP asked about - or, rather, he asked about removing the commercial patches from mouthpieces after he'd finished testing them. His question didn't seem to be about patches players might use for the long haul of playing on an everyday mouthpiece.

These are two different uses for patches. As I've said, tape is fine for testing a mouthpiece and comes off easily. Over the longer term for me, although I play double lip most of the time, I like the softness of a patch, and the tape isn't soft or giving enough for my comfort. Not to mention that the adhesive is more prone in my experience to bleed out around the edges and get gummy once it's exposed. So for regular use, I prefer the Runyon black patches. They're actually thicker than I really like, but they're softer than the thinner ones on the market that (at least the ones I've tried) are made of a harder plastic material.

My overall preference is for the old-style rubber work gloves (the ones that were red inside and black outside) that many of us used to cut up for patches 40 years ago. They had the softness of rubber without the thickness. Alas, except for a small swatch of the stuff I've kept as a souvenir from the last gloves I bought (and used up), I haven't seen that kind of rubber in a glove or any other kind of sheet for a very long time. [frown]

Karl

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: grenadilla428 
Date:   2012-08-27 14:44

I've tended to use tape in the past, and was just going to put a new piece on this morning, when the thought occurred to me... does it contain pvc? Is that bad? What about my students (who are the reason I carry around a roll of the stuff)? Seems like we have to worry about this kind of stuff all the time nowadays.

So a little research, and here's what I found.

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSuUn_zu8l00x482Bmx_Znv70k17zHvu9lxtD7SSSSSS--


Hmmm... I'm a little concerned because of the amount of contact we have with the stuff.

Thoughts? Other ideas?

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: grenadilla428 
Date:   2012-08-27 14:49

What about medical tape?

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2012-08-27 23:25

Any glue residues can be cleaned off with a cotton cloth dipped in alcohol (isopropyl or methylated spirits) or alcohol swabs.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: Lorenzo_M 
Date:   2012-08-28 03:41

electrical tape works pretty good, provided you don't bite (I don't, but I find it too thin...I'm used to more cushion). It's good enough for a short trial, but it will eventually break down from use (and leave residue).

I have a few packs of Vandoren and BG mpc patches here. The black ones (I use the "thick" ones) basically last forever, and can be removed and reapplied several times. They leave no residue, in my experience.

When I was trialing new pieces a few months ago, I just kept removing and reusing a BG patch I had on my then-current mpc for 5 years...!

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 Re: Mouthpiece Cushion
Author: DrewSorensenMusic 
Date:   2012-08-28 03:58

There are a few types of electrical tape, and if you are looking for thicker kind, 3m makes a rubber electrical tape. It's not vinyl like most electrical tapes. It's thicker by a large margin, and provides a great deal of cushion. I've had my roll for 5 years now, and I replace the tape quite often "I should really stop biting". There are probably other manufacturers of rubber electrical tape. Should run you around $5 for a roll that will last you 10 years.

Drew S.

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