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 M15 13 Series question
Author: clarinetmc 
Date:   2010-08-19 00:55

Hi all:

Just a quick question/observation...

I have read on this board, and on the Vandoren website that the M15 has a longer facing and close tip opening which allows you to play on harder reeds without having the resistance...I recently switched from an M13 Lyre and have actually found that the M15 is a little more resistant with the same strength reeds I used to use on my M13 Lyre (Vandoren V12 3.5+)...note, I have broken in new reeds for the M15, not using the same reeds from the M13 Lyre I used months back. Has this happened to any of you? I know for me that it's not just this one particular M15 because I have tried about 35 M15 13 series at a music shop in the area.

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 Re: M15 13 Series question
Author: kdk 
Date:   2010-08-19 02:34

As you say, the M13L has a shorter curve (which *should* slightly increase resistance) and a slightly less open tip (which *should* decrease resistance). The difference in curve length between the M13L and the M15 that I have on hand is fairly small (34 vs. 36 using a standard measuring glass), and the difference between 1.02mm and 1.035mm in the tip openings is very small (some would say insignificant) as well. The influence of the difference in tip openings seems to be more apparent to you than that of the curve lengths. The two differences *should* (in theory) pretty much cancel each other. For what it's worth, I recently had a new student who needed a mouthpiece try an M13L and an M15 and she chose the M13L, finding it easier-blowing. From my own experience in trying them, I don't find a meaningful difference between them.

Keep in mind that softness in a reed can sometimes feel like resistance, if the reed you're testing has any tendency to close up on the facing.

Karl

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 Re: M15 13 Series question
Author: clarinetguy 2017
Date:   2010-08-19 14:22

KDK could be right. I've never used the M13L and can't offer advice, but I've been using a M15 for a couple years and really like it.

I know what they say about using hard reeds on a M15. Some people have great success using very hard reeds with it. I've had the best results using Rico Reserve 3s on mine. I've also used Rue Lepic 3s and Mitchell Lurie 3 1/2s with success. When I first got the mouthpiece and used slightly harder reeds, they were way too resistant for me.

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 Re: M15 13 Series question
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2010-08-19 17:00

That "rule" does not apply to everyone because it doesn't take into consideration how your embouchure is formed, if you have an over or underbite, how strong your jaw muscles are and everything else that it takes to make a sound. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

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