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Author: 2cekce 2017
Date:   2010-07-25 23:00

Is there a book of scales out there that makes them more interesting and fun to practice. was able to learn them on sax very easily, probably because its an octave instrument. years later after self teaching myself clarinet, i'm finding it hard to buckle down and learn them on clarinet.
is it because the clarinet is in 12ths or is there a method used to get them under my belt that would be different from learning them on sax. As a little history if i had not mentioned this before, my high school and college did not allow guys to play clarinets or flutes so i had to opt for the sax instead.
have nothing against the sax it just doesnt do it for me like the clarinet. I love everything about the clarinet. when i left college I bought my own clarinet and joined a couple of bands here in atlanta, took a few lessons and was told i have to learn the scales to be good on it. so i ask is there such a book of scales that makes them interesting to practice. I need this practice so i can start learning the concerto no 2 piece by weber. I have a great desire to play this piece, however i dont think all of the basics are there for me to take on this yet. btw i work full time with a family so time is very scarce for me at times.

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 Re: scales
Author: andrewsong 
Date:   2010-07-25 23:14

the fact that guys are not allowed to play clarinet is slightly disturbing. There really shouldn't be any reason to stop people from what insturment they want to play. For example, Emmanuel Pahud is one of the greatest flautists, yet he is a man.

I actually enjoy the Albert Scale book. It has both scales as well as other variations such as thirds, arpeggios other others. It is split up by each key, so you can allot your time accordingly. Weber 2 is a great piece, and I hope that you will play it great!



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 Re: scales
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2010-07-26 02:02

Albert is good. I have used the James Collis book of scales and arpeggios with students in the past. I don't know it for a fact, but I'd bet the Galper method series includes a scale book. Also, the good old Rubank Advanced book is organized by keys. Each section (scales and arpeggios, articulation, "melodic interpretation," etc.) is organized by key and there's a table at the beginning of the book that indicates lessons that include specific selections from each section all within a specific key. Book I goes through the majors and relative minors from C Major/A Minor through 3 flats and 3 sharps. Book II goes on from 4 of each. Any of these offer the basic scales followed by various diatonic scale patterns, arpeggiated patterns and chromatic scales beginning on the tonic note of the scale unit. Klose II has the classic set of diatonic scales and arpeggios and chromatic scale exercises, and Carl Baermann 3rd Division has extensive exercises in the various keys.

These are all old books. You might find something more modern or someone here may have one to recommend. The basic scales and arpeggios haven't changed in several hundred years, so finding study material based on them is more a matter of personal taste than anything else.

Karl

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 Re: scales
Author: andrewsong 
Date:   2010-07-26 02:10

Yeah, kdk is right. When first learning scales, there isn't much variation in hte basic scale studies. When you get more skilled at clarinet, there is a lot of varying meterial out there, such as what kdk reccomended. The infamous Kropesch books are always there if you want to tackle them. They have some very impressive technical studies in there. *Warning: They are not for hte faint of heart...I learned that the hard way X.X



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 Re: scales
Author: dansil 
Date:   2010-07-26 02:44

ditto for Galper's Scale book

Danny

a family doctor in Castlemaine, rural Victoria, Australia for the past 30+ years, also a plucked string musician (mandolin, classical guitar) for far too long before discovering the clarinet - what a missed opportunity!

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 Re: scales
Author: clarinetdaddy 
Date:   2010-07-26 02:51

A good and fun way to learn scales is to get Vol. #24 Major and Minor scales from the Jamey Aebersold Jazz Play-A-Long sets. It comes with a book and also a CD with rhythm players that play along with you. Like being in a small combo. Check them out!!

clarinetdaddy
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing".

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 Re: scales
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2010-07-26 16:57

I too recommend using the Albert scales, you can find them in the Lazuras book 2 as well along with the Kroepsch book 1 and some interesting chord passages as well as etudes in the back. It's a combination of several books, I very good buy. After you complete the Albert then take up the Baerman Book 3 scale book if you wan't to move to the next level. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: scales
Author: ohsuzan 
Date:   2010-07-26 17:52

One of the most "painless" scale-oriented books, IMO, is David Hite's "Melodious And Progressive" series. Not all that difficult (upper intermediate, maybe), but it gets the basic patterning done, so you could move on to the really brain- and finger-wrenching stuff later.

Susan

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 Re: scales
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2010-07-26 20:56

"As a little history if i had not mentioned this before, my high school and college did not allow guys to play clarinets or flutes so i had to opt for the sax instead"

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What's the name of these schools? Really would like to know.......

Are they run by the KKK, or possibly the NeoNazi's?

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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 Re: scales
Author: BobD 
Date:   2010-07-26 22:26

Scales are inherently interesting ....

Bob Draznik

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 Re: scales
Author: rcnelson 
Date:   2010-07-27 15:11

I love the Albert scale book. If I only have a few minutes during any given day to practice the clarinet (which unfortunately is most days), I pick a key in the Albert book and play thru each exercise several times in that key.

Ron
Selmer Mark VI tenor (1957), Selmer Mark VII alto (1975)
Buescher True Tone soprano (1924), Selmer CL210 Bb Clarinet, Gemeinhardt 3SHB Flute, Pearl PFP105 Piccolo


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 Re: scales
Author: pewd 
Date:   2010-07-27 15:41

Foundation Studies for Clarinet, Southern Music, Hite, (Baerman 3)

Melodioius & Progressive Studies, Volume 1, Southern Music, Hite

- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas

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 Re: scales
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2010-07-28 02:09

I kinda like Buddy DeFranco's jazz method book. Hanon Studies for Clarinet. The scales are straightforward, but at the end are 20 exercises, each based on a scale, in every key. Those exercises are great and have definitely helped my sightreading and helped me to just become more comfortable playing in each key.

Alexi

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 Re: scales
Author: grenadilla428 
Date:   2010-07-28 14:57

Lots of great recommendations here.

As a side note, I really appreciate something that Ron said, or rather, that he implied. Please do not feel that you must sit for 45 minutes and play absolutely nothing but scales. Let them take up a few minutes, but do them very frequently. Pick a key or two and work them out, then go on to something else (like a melodic etude, for example) for the rest of your practice time. Cap the end of the session by returning to the same scales you played at the beginning. The next day, pick a different key.

If you have only 10-15 minutes to practice, sure - spend them on scales and arpeggios. You're hard-pressed to find something better than fundamentals to do in short practice sessions.

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 Re: scales
Author: Leo Sesemann 
Date:   2010-07-28 23:08

What about "The Complete Clarinet Scale Book" by Boosey & Hawkes. It's a systematic workout...

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 Re: scales
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2010-07-29 12:50

>>As a little history if i had not mentioned this before, my high school and college did not allow guys to play clarinets or flutes so i had to opt for the sax instead.
>>

What in the world did this school give as an excuse for this sexist policy?

Re. the scales, I think these are all good suggestions and a good way to use them is to buy several books instead of just one. Rotating any excercises, instead of playing the same ones over and over, keeps them from getting boring and also helps prevent just memorizing the exercises and playing them mindlessly, instead of learning what they teach and getting completely comfortable in all the key signatures.

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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 Re: scales
Author: 2cekce 2017
Date:   2010-07-29 13:50

Bullock county high in alabama and Alabama A&M univ,,they have since changed as i have seen guys playing both now. guess they were just a bit old fashion or something

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 Re: scales
Author: 2cekce 2017
Date:   2010-07-29 13:52

thanks. i purchased the albert book and found it to be just what i need.

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