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 Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: srattle 
Date:   2010-07-13 12:25

Hi everyone,

I'm in a desperate search for a bass clarinet in Berlin (french system)
I need it in September and have until now come up short.

Does anyone have any leads?

it would be great appreciated!
Sacha

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2010-07-13 12:53

Buy? Lend? Rent?

--
Ben

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: srattle 
Date:   2010-07-13 13:04

oh sorry,

best case to borrow, but I will also happily rent one if possible.

I have already tried the main woodwind store here (die holzblaeser) and the only instrument they have to rent is a low Eb, plastic student yamaha. . .which sounds a little like a Sax, and doesn't quite meet my needs for Pierrot Lunaire. . .

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2010-07-13 16:50

France and England are just a short trip away. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: donald 
Date:   2010-07-13 20:48

If this is at all helpful, I am fairly sure the Pierrot Lunaire part doesn't need a low C bass (I'm not trying to persuade to use the Yamaha student bass though).
dn

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2010-07-13 22:39

In my Drapkin excerpts book, none of the Pierrot excerpts go below written low Eb.

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: srattle 
Date:   2010-07-13 23:48

The low C is not the problem, the student, and plastic parts are. . .

And you're right, Pierrot doesn't go below Eb.

Ed, are you suggesting that I travel to England or France to rent a bass clarinet? Seems a little excessive. . .it might be what I have to do in the end, but it might take my whole fee for the concert. . .

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2010-07-14 06:27

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--
Ben

Post Edited (2010-07-14 06:32)

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: howarth 
Date:   2010-07-14 13:19

If you contact us at Howarths we should be able to point in the right direction, or help directly.

If that is helpful for you, our number is:
+44 20 7935 2407.
Ask to speak to Donny or Andy

Best Wishes,

Howarth of London
Clarinet Department

Howarth of London
31-35 Chiltern Street
London
W1U 7PN
clarinet@howarth.uk.com
www.howarth.uk.com

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2010-07-14 15:47

I guess it may seem like going to France or England to rent a bass clarinet would be a bit much but you could have a nice few days vacation too. I agree, you don't need a low C bass and it's possible that one of the students basses might play well enough to play the part with a good mouthpiece and reed. I recall many years ago that I heard that the bass player back then in the NY ballet orchestra used a Bundy bass clarinet. Although I'm not recommending this because I would never do it, I don't have too, some players have played the "high" bass clarinet parts on the clarinet an octave lower. Something that could at least be considered if you end up with a student model that does not have a decent high register or is out of tune up there. It's at least an option. ESP

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2010-07-14 16:31

I play my concerts on a Artley (Bundy clone) all the time. Okay, I'm not a soloist, and I rarely go higher than the upper clarion C.
One should not dismiss an instrument just because it is classified student-ish and made from plastic, at least not without having at least tried it.
Or as Bocuse once put it - a good chef can prepare a decent meal from whatever is in the fridge or in the house, without first running to some posh market and buy all sorts of deli stuff.

But I'm not a pro, and my requirements are somewhat modest.

--
Ben

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2010-07-14 18:35

I'd bragged in another thread about having played the Weber 2nd Concerto on bass clarinet for my high school state solo festivals about three millennia ago --- I did that on a Vito plastic bass clarinet, and you may recall the piece starts on an altissimo F..........So I'd agree with Ben and Ed, a decent player can get by without having the absolute best equipment.

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: srattle 
Date:   2010-07-14 21:58

I can play very comfortably this Yamaha plastic bass. I've played it before. The problem is that it sounds like a sax, and I will be playing it a very prestigious venue, with a very prestigious ensemble and have to sound my best. If this was a small gig somewhere I would be more willing to rent what they have hear, but I need something very fine.

If a professional musician here would happily play a bad student instrument for a big concert, I would love to hear how they managed, but I am not a high school student, nor would I call myself an amateur.

If you have ideas on where I could find a professional instrument to borrow, let me know.

thanks 'howarth' I will try contacting in the next days!

Sacha

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2010-07-14 23:11

Sacha,

Do you not know any fellow player or professional that would be willing to lend you an instrument. If it's a prestigious ensemble and venue then you need to get a bass that fills the requirements.

I've played Pierrot many times and you need a good bass to deal with the leaps that abound in the piece. The bass part is no walk over, neither is the clarinet part for that matter.

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: srattle 
Date:   2010-07-15 06:13

Peter:
The trouble with Germany, is that everyone I know here who has a bass clarinet, as a German Bass, and on almost anything else I would be willing to learn enough of the system to be able to play the part, but Pierrot is a beast, and I can't take that risk.

I've also played Pierrot many times, and the Bass parts are really a struggle if the instrument doesn't play nice.

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 Re: Boehm bass in Berlin
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2010-07-16 08:29

Alexander Bader of the Berlin Phil told me once that he prefers the Buffet bass before the German dito. Maybe he has connections? You probably know him already.

Alphie

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