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Author: Marcovaldo
Date: 2010-05-26 12:44
Dear clarinet board
anyone can share experience with this G clarinet: Amati ACL 340S G-Clarinet
http://www.thomann.de/gb/amati_acl_340s_gklarinette.htm
Or generally Amati clarinets...
Is the sound good overall the instrument, does it have a good intonation?
Is it woth the money?
Best regards
Marco
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Author: RoBass
Date: 2010-05-26 14:21
As I wrote in German board already - is the G a must have? That's a very special instrument group and not spread well.
For Bb the meaning of the mass could be brought, but for G?
kindly
Roman
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Author: Marcovaldo
Date: 2010-05-26 14:40
Hi,
yes, I am interested in collecting infos about the G version.
I know it's a very special instrument, that's why I am posting to different forums.
I already have a Bb clarinet, I am just interested in this different sound.
Best regards
Marco
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Author: Kalakos
Date: 2010-05-27 01:17
Hi Aristotele:
You must be interested in Greek or Turkish music! I bought an Amati G, and it is very good and played well. I ended up selling it to a friend because I prefer the "klarina" with no upper rings and without the extra left hand little finger key. I bought a Hammerschmidt G with no rings, no rollers, no lower trill key, and mono do (no patent C#). These are more expensive, but I preferred that key style. I should add that most musicians prefer the set up on the Amati G clarinets. The Amatis come with 2 barrels, on shorter than the other, so you can be in tune better with European instruments that might be tuned sharper than A=440.
You might want to check the Greek Turkish Clarinet Forum where these clarinets have been discussed a lot.
www.gtc-music1.com/
Good luck.
John
Kalakos
Kalakos Music
http://www.TAdelphia.com
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Author: donald
Date: 2010-05-27 06:18
I recently heard a Clarinet played in a film soundtrack that I was sure must be a G clarinet (given the range and tone quality- though I couldn't be sure). A gorgeous sound- the score called for both a "straight" style tone, and a more folk inspired sound in different parts of the score...
dn
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Author: Marcovaldo
Date: 2010-05-27 07:48
Hi John and Donald.
thank you for your replies.
John, yes, my interest comes from greek and turkish clarinet music.
I am not sure I will go deeply in the style yet, but I am definitely fashinated by the sound of G clarinets.
Still, the klarina option is too radical for me.
The reason why I am focusing on this Amati G model on different forums is that you won't find G clarinets in Italy's stores. So I have to order it online, and that's the one i've found that could match my budget.
And it's a great news to hear from your direct experience that it's a good instrument. Also the 2 barrels thing is a precious information.
Thank you
Marco "Aristotele"
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Author: RoBass
Date: 2010-05-27 08:48
@aristotele: Could be heard a tarogato/octavin? Often is used for Balkan music instead of clarinets. The sound is slightly different and very typical. I know many tracks played on a tarogatos and sounding near to clarinets but not equal... Some loops are different because the tarogato throats to the octave instead of duodecime, and therefore some loops sound not so "broken" like on a clarinet in the same range.
kindly
Roman
PS: Current Amati production is well done and free of quality "oscillations" mostly ;-) I don't know Gs in detail, but I would recommend the manufacturer without limitations - in this mentioned field (folk) of course ;-)
Post Edited (2010-05-27 08:48)
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Author: Kalakos
Date: 2010-05-27 21:30
Aristotele:
The Amati Albert G is a good instrument. The only bad thing I ever heard about it is from some other Greek musicians. For a period of time there was a problem with cracking. Mine never did crack and was perfect. The man who bought it is very very pleased with it. It also is a good price for what you get. I bought my Hammerschmidt by speaking directly with Klaus Hammerschmidt at the company in Germany by email messages. There is a friend in Australia who is now a distributor for these Hammerschmidt clarinets, and if you like you can send a personal message and I will send you his information.
You really should try the GTC (Greek Turkish clarinet forum) for information on G clarinets.
Kalakos
http://www.gtc-music1.com
Kalakos
Kalakos Music
http://www.TAdelphia.com
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2010-05-28 00:44
Lark in the Morning stocked truly dreadful metal G clarinets -- not quite as unplayable as the red-pad "Indian Army" objects, but almost.
However, they appear to have switched to the Amati, though it's out of stock. The enlarged photo clearly has the Amati trademark. http://larkinthemorning.com/products/win148
Ken Shaw
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Author: Marcovaldo
Date: 2010-05-28 09:41
Hello hello
thank you all for your posts!
Yes yes, I am also reading a lot of useful informations from the greek and turkisch music forum. There are really a lot of posts about this specific model.
I also found very interesting to have a tour on more classical oriented clarinet forums on the same instrument.
My main worry at the moment is this diffuse crack reputation. This has been also confirmed by some vendors.
What do you do when your tube cracks? it must be a very sad moment!
I guess cleaning up every 30 minutes helps, and the price is really good.
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Author: RoBass
Date: 2010-05-28 10:38
Crackig is mostly a problem of to less oil in the wood. You should oil the clarinet well and warm up every time slightly. This is not only a problem of this specific model, it's a problem with other tunes too. Could be a follower of the drying procedure in Czech.?
kindly
Roman
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Author: Kalakos
Date: 2010-05-28 20:15
I bought mine from a supplier who gave it a good oiling with the Doctor's bore oil. Mine never cracked.
I understand, though, that it seems to have been Amati's wood supply that was at fault. In any case, I don't hear any reports of cracking problems any more (for at least a year).
These Amati's are available from other suppliers for a lot less than the Lark in the Morning price by the way, and there are also used instruments in G available.
Good luck
Kalakos
Kalakos Music
http://www.TAdelphia.com
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Author: clarinetistra
Date: 2010-05-29 16:23
I have an Amati G as well as a Hammerschmidt. The intonation on my Amati is good, but I had to try a couple to find one that I thought was good enough to then take to my repair tech for minor adjustments (we adjusted some key heights as well as some tone holes, but they were minor changes). The first Amati that the mail order company sent to me, the 12ths were pretty far out... so it seems like a little bit of luck.
I like both my G's, the Amati is a little brighter sounding than the Hammerschmidt.
Good luck!
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