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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2010-04-09 15:04
A good performance of the Concertino -- maybe better by Stanley than the one with the Philharmonic -- undercut by a pretty awful accompaniment.
Also a good "Rossini" (actually by Kuffner), with the band a bit better, but bad sound and more mistakes than are usual from Stanley.
Thanks for putting them up.
Ken Shaw
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Author: salzo
Date: 2010-04-09 15:38
Ken Shaw wrote:
"Also a good "Rossini" (actually by Kuffner)"
Whaddya mean "actually by Kuffner?"
I never heard that the piece was written by someone else.
Do you know of any info that references the spurious state of the composition? I am not doubting it, just interested.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2010-04-09 18:03
The band accompaniment was pretty awful and the conductor struggled to keep it together with the soloist, but Drucker's performance, while technically not perfect, still had enough of Stanley's unique stylings to make it enjoyable to watch.
This performance was just before Drucker's 81st birthday. We should all do so well at the age of 81.
...GBK
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Author: grifffinity
Date: 2010-04-09 18:52
Drucker has been making the rounds with these two works. Similar performances with the Eastern Wind Symphony and Hanover Wind Band in NJ over the past two months. I also heard that Drucker fell and sustained an injury during the Hanover concert from someone who attended.
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Author: GLHopkins
Date: 2010-04-09 19:32
He's getting on in years. I hate to see him get hurt. It takes longer to recover when you're up in years.
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Author: JEG ★2017
Date: 2010-04-10 01:34
I heard Stanley in a recital in Melville NY two weeks ago and spoke to him afterwards. If he was injured he showed no signs of it, either in his playing or in his actions.
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Author: William
Date: 2010-04-10 14:42
What an amazing couple they make. But I wonder who really takes the best reeds from the box.........lol.
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Author: JessKateDD
Date: 2010-04-10 17:47
Ken,
The Rossini Introduction, Theme, and Variations is by Rossini.
You're confusing it with the "Weber" Introduction, Theme, and Variations, composed by Kuffner.
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Author: Woop Woop
Date: 2010-04-11 08:01
I've heard the "Rossini" Introduction Theme and Variations is actually not by Rossini though, I'm pretty sure there's a thread on that on here somewhere
Woop Woop
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2010-04-11 14:40
I admit everything. The two pieces, each named "Introduction, Theme and Variations," mixed together in my poor, aging brain and produced a big, vulgar, and unforgivable error, mistake, fault, blunder, slip-up, gaffe, inaccuracy, oversight, blooper, lapse, confusion, mix-up, misunderstanding, misjudgment, misinterpretation, confusion, cock-up and altogether wrong, idiotic, stupid and generally idiotic statement. Both it and I should be burnt at the stake.
And, yes, I used the Thesaurus function to make most of the list, since I couldn't trust myself to know what's what.
Satisfied, Tony? After all, anyone can make a mistake -- even me. Even, dare I say, you.
Ken Shaw
Post Edited (2010-04-11 14:42)
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2010-04-11 16:24
Ken Shaw wrote:
>> Satisfied, Tony?>>
Not really. What you write shows that you don't see the point -- as you didn't before.
Tony
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Author: mrn
Date: 2010-04-11 17:04
Woop Woop wrote:
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I've heard the "Rossini" Introduction Theme and Variations is actually not by Rossini though, I'm pretty sure there's a thread on that on here somewhere
I remember reading something along those lines, too. (somewhere--I can't remember where) So I did a search on the BBoard and found that there is, in fact, a thread on this topic:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=50104&t=50104
So, apparently the theme comes from Rossini, but nobody's quite sure whether Rossini himself wrote the variations (or all the variations). (Or at least they weren't when Jack Brymer wrote his book.)
Post Edited (2010-04-11 17:05)
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2010-04-11 18:03
>> And, yes, I used the Thesaurus <<
Which one... the Thesaurus Rex...? 
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2010-04-11 18:58
It's not only the theme that quotes one of Rossini's arias. The introduction melody is used as an introduction to one of the arias in Rossini's opera Mose in Egitto. The melody is quoted almost completely the same as in the clarinet piece, but then the soprano gets to do all the interesting embellishments on it. I'd say it's a very interesting thing to study for us clarinetists to get an idea of how an opera singer would do this piece.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2010-04-11 19:24
Tony -
As usual, I'm confused. Which point didn't I see?
If it's that I'm reluctant to admit error, what do you think I just did? At any rate, I suggest you're mistaken. I've done it quite a number of times and thanked each poster for the correction. I've never pretended to be perfect.
Ken Shaw
Post Edited (2010-04-11 19:31)
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