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 Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: Euphonium 
Date:   2010-03-30 12:52

My High School Senior son just learned he will be going to the Washington State Solo and Ensemble contest in less than a month.

He will be playing the Nielsen opus 57 solo and needs 3 original copies for the competition. We own one copy already, but I am reluctant to purchase 2 more (at great cost) for this event and there is little time left.

Does anyone have a copy of this solo piece with piano reduction that they would be willing to rent to me short term or sell. I assure you I am not trying to get around copyright laws but this policy is difficult and expensive with little advance notice.

My older son is a university student and it may be available at his school. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

Al

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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2010-03-30 14:04

You can't copy it twice and call them original copies?

;)

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: Euphonium 
Date:   2010-03-30 14:22

David,

The rules are very specific: You MUST have 3 originals. If you use copies, the student won't be eligible for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place honors.

There are exceptions for out of print pieces and they will accept copies with a letter from from the publisher. But, the publisher is Danish and I am not likely to figure that one out.

Al

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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: mrn 
Date:   2010-03-30 16:25

Here are the rules for WA state solo & ensemble:

http://www.wmea.org/StudentEvents/SoloEns/rules10.pdf

If I am reading these rules properly, they will also accept proof that the work/edition is in the public domain or that it is a free download from the Internet in lieu of a letter from the publisher.

In that case, the full orchestral score (not the piano reduction) is available for free from IMSLP. Apparently this piece is in the public domain--I'm not sure why it is in the public domain in the U.S., though. Perhaps Nielsen either failed to register his copyright in the U.S., his heirs failed to renew it after he died, or it got published without a copyright notice.

It's in the public domain in the rest of the world, to be sure, because Nielsen died more than 70 years ago. It would have been public domain in the U.S., too, for that reason, except that the "Sonny Bono Act" carved out some juicy exceptions for certain works first published after 1923 when the old 1909 Copyright Act was still in force--our current copyright act came about in 1976)

I don't know if your judges would be OK with the full orchestra score instead of the piano version, but you'd think they would, since they're supposed to be judging your son, not his accompanists (you do have a snare drummer, too, right?). You might check, though. Here's the link for the free download:

http://imslp.org/wiki/Clarinet_Concerto,_Op.57_%28Nielsen,_Carl%29

Alternatively, you might be able to use a printout of the IMSLP webpage above as evidence that the work is in the public domain and that making a photocopy of the piano reduction is legal--but that's assuming that the piano reduction is not covered under a separate copyright of its own, apart from the original work itself (sometimes there's an editor involved). The safer route, from a legal standpoint, would be to use the IMSLP orchestral score, rather than photocopying the piano reduction.

Another option, if they'd take a solo part instead of a score, is to simply buy the solo part from Kalmus. Kalmus is a music publishing company that specializes in selling reprints (i.e., legal photocopies) of old sheet music that has fallen into the public domain. They sell the solo part for $5.00 a copy.

http://www.kalmus-music.com/kalorchdetail.php?r=4214

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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: Euphonium 
Date:   2010-03-30 16:55

MRN,

Thanks for the info.

This piece seems to be in a complicated copyright state. Hal Leonard now sells a version (with piano reduction) of this title that has a Copyright date of 2004 without mention of an arranger.

The last thing I want to do is have my son show up with copies that aren't accepted. I'll check with our Band Director and see if he can get it clarified with the judges. There is also an issue with the percussionist since the rules allow only one accompanist.

Al

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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: mrn 
Date:   2010-03-30 17:15

Euphonium wrote:

> This piece seems to be in a complicated copyright state. Hal
> Leonard now sells a version (with piano reduction) of this
> title that has a Copyright date of 2004 without mention of an
> arranger.

Probably some anonymous employee of Hal Leonard made the reduction. I have a feeling Nielsen himself never made his own piano reduction of the piece.

> The last thing I want to do is have my son show up with copies
> that aren't accepted. I'll check with our Band Director and see
> if he can get it clarified with the judges.

That's what I would do. Best of luck to your son in the competition!

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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: JJAlbrecht 
Date:   2010-03-30 17:23

Make sure to get all permissions/approvals in writing from the judging organization PRIOR to showing up!

Jeff

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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: JessKateDD 
Date:   2010-04-02 16:41

No need for a "great expense" - Luck's sells the solo part for 5 dollars. I bought it a few years ago to replace my tattered original, and it's just fine.

http://www.lucksmusic.com/cat-symph/showdetailMain.asp?CatalogNo=01210

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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: mrn 
Date:   2010-04-02 17:22

JessKateDD wrote:

> No need for a "great expense" - Luck's sells the solo part for
> 5 dollars. I bought it a few years ago to replace my tattered
> original, and it's just fine.

And with piano, too, I see!

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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2010-04-02 17:56

$5???

But I was used to paying $65 for it..... (or something completely outrageous like that. It like they priced it based on it's accidentals...)

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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 Re: Nielsen opus 57 needed
Author: mrn 
Date:   2010-04-02 18:48

DavidBlumberg wrote:

> $5???
>
> But I was used to paying $65 for it..... (or something
> completely outrageous like that. It like they priced it based
> on it's accidentals...)

It's because it's the Nielsen Concerto...the pricing is bipolar.  ;)

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