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 Re: Mechanical Failure during a performance.
Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date:   2010-01-09 22:47

I have to disagree with most of your points, Nitai.

It is very possible to install a pad with silicone glue and start playing immediately while the glue sets, because the silicone glues I use (specifically GE or Permatex brands) have enough initial "tack" to hold the pad in place from the start. And playing while the glue sets is very helpful in causing the pad to seat perfectly.

Perhaps there are significant differences in the properties of commercially-available silicone glues which are responsible for our different experiences. If the GE product (sold in the US as household caulk or sealant, for bathroom or window use, that sort of thing) is available, I'd recommend its use.

I use the following technique: Install the pad, and seat it using a leak light and/or cigarette papers as usual. Then 'pop' the key a number of times (operate shut/open/shut etc.) using somewhat more than normal pressure, preferable with the operating lever rather than pushing directly on the cup. The clarinet can be played immediately thereafter. Full cure takes about 24 hours but there's no need to wait for that, except that the clarinet should not be left in a shut case until full cure is complete because the glue "offgasses" acetic acid (that vinegar smell) which can (a) stink up the inside of the case and (b) tarnish silver plating. So it's best to leave the clarinet on a table or counter for the glue to cure.

I have been using this technique for about 15 years now on literally hundreds of clarinets and saxophones of all sizes. I have occasionally had to remove pads that I had installed earlier in this way, and it was no trouble at all. By the way, it isn't necessary to remove every trace of old silicone glue when installing a new pad -- the new glue will stick even after a 'quick and sloppy' cleanup job of the old glue.
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