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Author: Joarkh
Date: 2010-01-07 19:34
http://www.vandoren.fr/en/v12+.html
I can't help but notice how he emphasises how good they are right out of the box. Do you think he is implying that these reeds can be played directly out of the box, without breaking them in?
Joar
Clarinet and saxophone teacher, clarinet freelancer
Post Edited (2010-01-07 19:35)
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2010-01-07 20:02
Those V12s sound nothing like what I sound like when I first try them out of the box...
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Author: William
Date: 2010-01-07 21:53
The statement by VD, "We've added another strength which means the most consistant concert reed is even more consistant" kind of makes me go, hmmmmmmm.......... All that Pauls demo proves is that a strong player can make anything work. Right out of the box and onto the concert stage--I don't think so.
Regardless, still play'n my Forestones and having fun.........
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Author: FDF
Date: 2010-01-07 22:10
Paul Meyer looks better and sounds better than I do, got to get me some V12s at 3 1/2! My life is going to change.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2010-01-07 23:06
I get exactly the same result as Paul Meyer. He is in France I'm in Iceland. Do you think the flowpack has anything to do with that ? At least I did not get this result prior to flowpack.
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Author: NBeaty
Date: 2010-01-07 23:58
He's just an amazing player and doesn't rely on having a perfect reed. He plays a 5RV Lyre mouthpiece and a prototype buffet (same keywork as tosca, but with different bore). The clarinet he plays is awesome, I got to play on it this summer when I played in a masterclass that he was giving.
He sounded the same when he played everyone else's setups though. He also just has 4 or 5 vandoren reeds floating around in his case in their plastic vandoren individual cases.
Puts everything in perspective when he learned Time Pieces by Muczynsky in 2 days and missed only 2 or 3 notes in the entire piece....
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2010-01-08 04:54
>> Do you think he is implying that these reeds can be
>> played directly out of the box, without breaking them in?
That's how I've been playing them for years (just a different strength).
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Author: William
Date: 2010-01-08 14:25
"He also just has 4 or 5 vandoren reeds floating around in his case in their plastic vandoren individual cases."
Many years ago, Charles Neidich was in town for a series of clarinet clinics and he carried his reeds in their plastic sleeves in his coat pocket. I also recall at one point, during a presentation, when his reed was not performing as he thought it should, he changed his mouthpiece rather than the reed. He explained that he carried two mpcies with slightly different facings for exactly that reason. BTW, I noticed no difference in his sound after the change. It seems that he is also one of those tremedously strong playeres who can play anything and make it work consistantly.
FWIW, regarding Pauls demos, it seems to my ear that his sound has quite a bit of "tension" in it and, in spite of his technique and awsome articulation, what he plays does not sound "easy" to me, but rather strained with "mechanical" results. Could it be the reeds????
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Author: weberfan
Date: 2010-01-08 14:45
Liquorice referred to the mispronunciation -- and therefore the mistranslation -- of "formidable." Yes, I noticed it too.
Interesting word. Although I hadn't thought about it before, it takes on a different meaning when pronounced differently.. Pronounced one way, with the accent on the first syllable--FORmidable--we have come to accept it as meaning "impressive" or "awe-inspiring."
As "forMIDable" --the way the translator rendered it---it means "causing fear or dread" or "hard to handle or overcome." Of course that's not what Meyer was saying about the V12.
Perhaps the translator had a brain freeze and got tripped up by the French pronunciation, which, if memory serves, is "formidAB(le)"--the le being silent or nearly so.
Post Edited (2010-01-08 14:46)
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