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Author: jmpayne
Date: 2009-11-28 12:51
By reading all of the responses I've received so far, I think a better question would be: "What's the best clarinet for a first-timer under $2,000"?
Post Edited (2009-11-28 19:22)
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-11-28 14:48
You'll get lots of recommendations. Mine is a plastic Yamaha Model 20 which will take you far enough
Bob Draznik
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2009-11-28 14:51
Do you have a teacher? Perhaps have the teacher make a recommendation.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
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Author: DixieSax
Date: 2009-11-28 16:09
Allan has the best answer.
Having said that, what will you be using it for? If you are young and plan on playing in a marching band in your high school years, go with the plastic one and buy an upgrade clarinet later.
If you have no intention of marching, and plan to play indoors exclusively, go with the E-11.
Either way, you can do better on the pricing. Ask questions here. There are a lot of people here who really know what they are talking about.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2009-11-28 16:42
You can do better than both.
The Plastic Clarinet is way overpriced to be only $400 from a wooden one. That said, the E-11 isn't that great a horn.
Get an E-12 if you want something better. At that price point though there are many models/brands which are very good and significantly better than the B-12.
Reality about pricing is that the plastic clarinet should be under $550 or so, and the wooden clarinet will probably be around $1200 new.
As mentioned above, have a teacher help you decide what works best for you and your situation.
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Post Edited (2009-11-28 16:54)
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Author: ABerry
Date: 2009-11-28 17:19
The simple difference is: the "cheap ABS plastic" (as you call it), is designed for a beginning clarinet student, somewhat moderately priced.
The E-11 is made of wood and is an “upgrade” to the B-12, designed for an intermediate level clarinet student and is somewhat less moderately priced. It won’t be more difficult to play necessarily, but it will have hopefully better workmanship, key work, etc.
Either will serve you well. But as David said earlier, the E-11 isn’t that great of a horn- (not bad, but not great either).
More importantly, as Allan said, if you have a teacher, ask them. If you don’t, I would recommend finding one.
Allan
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Author: stevensfo
Date: 2009-11-28 19:15
--"The E-11 is made of wood and is an “upgrade” to the B-12, designed for an intermediate level clarinet student and is somewhat less moderately priced."--
I've followed this forum for quite a long time, and the one thing that kept coming up was that the E11 was simply the wooden version of the B12.
Personally, I'd go for the B12 and start experimenting with MPs and barrels.
Steve
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-11-28 19:19
Personally I'd go for a wooden Vito, if one happens to pop up.
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Ben
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Author: BrianChau
Date: 2009-11-29 01:44
If your budget is around $1000, I would suggest you try the Leblanc Bliss clarinets, they are (I heard) very good for their price.
Brian
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Author: jacoblikesmusic
Date: 2009-11-29 04:59
The bliss clarinets are very good for their price. There is the LB320 which is all composite materials, the LB310 which is all composite but a wooden barrel, and the LB210 which is grenendilla wood body and barrel.
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Author: weberfan
Date: 2009-11-30 12:31
Allan Segal's advice to get a teacher recommendation is still the best. If you combine it with Bob Draznik's suggestion re: Yamaha, you'll end up doing what I did when I returned to playing after a very long time.
My own teacher's advice to all brand new students or those, like me, who are essentially starting over, is to get a Yamaha YCL 250, which is the latest version of the YCL 20 that Bob referred to. Excellent intonation (we have no trouble tuning for duets), easy response and very comfortable key work.
After a while, my teacher will suggest upgrading the barrel and, eventually, with many of his young students, will lead them toward a Buffet R13. He skips the intermediate clarinets as an unnecessary expense for younger students and their parents.
You'll read plenty of good things about Tom Ridenour's Lyrique clarinets, and I suspect they are well worth a look. I've never played one, nor do I know much about the Bliss clarinets by LeBlanc. The Yamaha YCL 250 will cost you about $820 new. You can sometimes find a used one in very good condition for less. The music-store chain, Sam Ash, sells what I assume are lightly used rental instruments for about $550...on line.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-11-30 12:59
Why should/would a beginner pay up to $2,000 even if he could! eBay regularly has used Yamaha ABS horns listed that parents bought for their beginner kids who lost interest when they got sore lips. Clarinet teachers have their own opinions and agendas just like the rest of us.
Bob Draznik
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Author: DixieSax
Date: 2009-11-30 16:56
Of course eBay also regularly has counterfeit Yamaha and Buffet clarinets listed that would actually be complete disasters for someone to actually buy.
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