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 which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: hammer_sickle01 
Date:   2009-11-10 19:15

I'm preparing for my audition and it was recommended to me that I include the cadenza in the Concertino. The edition that my instructor gave me doesn't include it so I'm going to purchase a new one but I \'m not sure which edition includes it?

If any of you know that'd be a great help (specifically available from either sheetmusicplus or jwpepper). The music stores that are local don't have a lot of variety in sheetmusic and usually only cater to piano and string parts so please don't recommend for me to try that out.

Thanks in advance.



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 Re: which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: mrn 
Date:   2009-11-10 19:22

The Pamela Weston edition I own includes a cadenza by Heinrich Baermann on a separate sheet. It's apparently still in print and on Sheet Music Plus (although the cover on mine looks different):

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Concertino-Op-26/5861506

Of course, you can always make up your own cadenza, too. The cadenza goes right before the meter change to 6/8.



Post Edited (2009-11-10 19:30)

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 Re: which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: USFBassClarinet 
Date:   2009-11-10 19:25

No recommendations from me...but a quick search on BBoard here gives these, which seem to have some good/relevant discussions.

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=215154&t=215153

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=211079&t=211054

The first link seems to have a link to the actual Cadenza.

Good Luck.



Post Edited (2009-11-10 19:27)

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 Re: which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: Neal Raskin 
Date:   2009-11-10 19:27

I would stay away from the Kjos edition. I completely cuts the triplet and slow sections. Probably not the best for auditions. Might be ok for a high school solo contest.

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 Re: which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: GBK 
Date:   2009-11-10 19:33

The Henle Urtext edition has the Heinrich Baermann cadenza.

Reprinted here:

http://www.arts.ufl.edu/music/clarinet/Concertino%20Cadenza.PDF



...GBK

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 Re: which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: xarkon 
Date:   2009-11-10 19:35

Henle edition. I think sheetmusicplus has it, but it is also available online here:

http://www.vcisinc.com/clarinetmusicpiano.htm

Look for item C326.


Dave

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 Re: which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: mrn 
Date:   2009-11-10 19:44

USFBassClarinet wrote:

<<The first link seems to have a link to the actual Cadenza.>>

Yes it does. That's actually a photocopy of a page from the Pamela Weston edition (same typography and everything). The top part is a transcription of Baermann's original. The bottom part contains Pamela Weston's editorial marks.

If you want to perform this cadenza, you should probably buy the Pamela Weston edition, because Ms. Weston's editorial revisions are protected by copyright and I don't want you to run into trouble over that.

[Edit -- I don't mean to recommend Ms. Weston's edition over the Henle edition. The Henle may be better (in fact, it probably is). It appears to be in stock at SheetMusicPlus, too, whereas the Weston edition you have to wait for (even if Weston's is a little cheaper). If I were you, having read GBK's post above, I'd probably purchase the Henle edition.]



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 Re: which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: OmarHo 
Date:   2009-11-10 20:57

Most or any German editions would be fine, I would think.
Try and stay away from Kell editions though.

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 Re: which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: NBeaty 
Date:   2009-11-10 21:08

Whatever you do, just don't use the one in the 16 grand solos.

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 Re: which edition for Weber Concertino?
Author: kdk 
Date:   2009-11-10 22:46

One reason why the Pennsylvania Music Educators' Association and our county MEA explicitly don't require cadenzas is that unless a specific one is called for, comparing performances of different ones fairly would be difficult, especially if students started inventing their own. My first reaction is to ask who recommended that you learn (or even look for) a cadenza for this piece. Unless the advice was based on knowledge of the policies of whatever organization you're auditioning for, I'd question it.

The editions that have come out with cadenzas included are newer ones. I have several editions from the mid-20th century (which were standard when I was a student in the '60s and '70s) that have no cadenza written out at all or even indicated. The one Henle provides is apparently from H. Baermann (who performed the piece during Weber's lifetime) by way of F. W. Jaehns, so we aren't certain of its origin or whether or not Weber intended a cadenza in that (or any other) place. Even Baermann's son Carl (per the notes in the Henle edition), himself a highly reputed clarinetist in his own right, questioned the cadenza, finding it "far too grand and pretentious and thus leaving the piece out of kilter."

I don't know where you are - even whether you're in the U.S. or somewhere else (I only see the beginning of an IP address, no service provider or location) - so I have no idea what organization is involved or what their expectations are. Obviously, you need to prepare what they ask for. If a cadenza is expected, the Henle edition seems like the most authoritative one you could use.

Karl

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