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Author: kdolan01
Date: 2009-10-01 14:44
I need a bit of guidance, I was just handed a Mozart requiem (Levin Edition), its the 1st part, which includes Basset Horn/ Cnet in A/ Cnet in Bb. Ok so A/Bb are fine, but lets say for example i don't own a basset horn...because i don't....so what is the best way to transpose those basset parts?
Thanks in advance!
-Kevin
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2009-10-01 15:07
Borrow, beg, rent or steal a basset horn. It's really worth it (except perhaps for the prison time you might have to serve from the stealing option!)
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Author: William
Date: 2009-10-01 15:24
Before stealing and risking legal consequencies, you could simply learn to play the bassett parts on a horn which is also in F. "French" horn was my minor instrument as a college clarinet major, and I am still able to get by pretty well. And you don't have to deal with those pesky reeds--LOL--just pucker up and buzz.
Alternative (and more serious) suggestion, try borrowing or renting. If that's not possible, transpose on a bass clarinet reading each bassett note up a perfect 5th. That would work if the bassett parts are written in F. If they are written in G, transpose up a 6th on your bass clarinet.
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Author: graham
Date: 2009-10-01 15:48
Yuk! Moz Req on bass clarinet? What a horrendous notion. Better far to play the alternative clarinet parts than to do that.
Yes, get a basset horn if you can, but I imagine that is out of the question, so if there is not a basset player to take it over from you, just play it on the clarinet.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2009-10-01 16:24
Or play the BH parts on alto clarinets, reading up a step. The BH people will object, but an alto has the same bore as a modern BH. An alto with a low (written) Eb is missing only the BH's low C.
Tony - Isn't the low C called for only a few times, and only in the second BH part, and the C# not at all? If so, you can add a makeshift PVC extension, or drop your wallet into the bell. If that doesn't work, you can use a bass clarinet or pass the line off to a bassoon for those few notes.
Ken Shaw
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Author: kdolan01
Date: 2009-10-01 17:17
alto/bass/ and basset horns are all out of the question, ive got 2 days, its just not possible, so i just need help doing things on my regular horns..i know a basset is required, and standard, and "ethical" but unless you are willing to drive basset to me in WV this afternoon...we have a problem SO Knowing these things.....lemme know !
thanks to all of you
-Kevin
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2009-10-01 22:32
Its some years since I played it last but I definately recall that the Basset Horn parts never go down to the bassett region and am fairly sure that its playable note for note on a normal clarinet. Certainly all the exposed parts for both 1st and 2nd BH hover as I remember between the break and C above the stave.
In the dim past I have played both 1st and 2nd parts and my recollection is that if anything the 2nd part is arguably more important than the 1st!!
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2009-10-01 23:12
Norman,
I did the Maunder edition of this work on period instruments earlier this year. Me and the 2nd were quite shocked when she found a basset C in the 2nd part. There were also altisimo Ebs in unison. Not the best thing on a period basset horn.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2009-10-01 23:43
kdolan01 wrote:
>> alto/bass/ and basset horns are all out of the question, ive got 2 days, its just not possible, so i just need help doing things on my regular horns..i know a basset is required, and standard, and "ethical" but unless you are willing to drive basset to me in WV this afternoon...we have a problem SO Knowing these things.....lemme know !>>
Well, it's pretty clear: we don't have the Levin version in front of us, and you do; so what you do is transpose the basset horn parts down a 4th and play them on a Bb clarinet, or down a major 3rd and play them on an A clarinet, or a combination of those, depending on the key of the piece; anything that goes too low you put up the octave, using your common sense to avoid unnatural leaps as far as possible.
If you can't do that at sight, you either have to write it out, or persuade someone else to write it out for you.
OR, you give the date away to someone who can play it properly using a basset horn.
OK?
Tony
Post Edited (2009-10-01 23:49)
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Author: kdolan01
Date: 2009-10-02 04:50
THANKS problem solved thanks to a friendly Board user!
This is why the board is great!
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Author: graham
Date: 2009-10-02 11:40
Actually, neither part goes below the range even of an E flat clarinet
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2009-10-02 12:31
graham wrote:
>> Actually, neither part goes below the range even of an E flat clarinet.>>
That's the Robert Levin completion you're talking about, is it?
Tony
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Author: graham
Date: 2009-10-03 17:49
No; fair point, I was referring to Sussmayer so not a relevant comment re any other version
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2009-10-04 15:36
I can't remember the edition but I've played the Mozart using the regular clarinets, I just don't know the publisher or if they sell the part separately. You can certainly transpose the Basset to regular clarinet if you need to. I've done it both ways and of course it sounds better with a Basset but only if it's a good instrument and you can play it well. Otherwise, transpose it as suggested. ESP
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