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Author: Scoti
Date: 2009-09-17 01:50
Hello,
I'm shopping around for a composite clarinet for those few outside jobs that come up every year in cooler weather. Had a Greenline for a while but never really liked it. Has anyone tried and/or compared the Bliss, Andino, Tyro or Ridenour Lyrique Custom? I've played the Bliss, which was pretty good, but needed a longer barrel, and the Tyro, which was good too, but was already turning green and smelled from the sulfur content in the rubber. I hear conflicting reports about the Ridenour Lyrique. Several people have told me that the keywork is not very good. Have not had a chance to try the Andinos, but I'm curious about it since I am a Rossi player. I would appreciate any insights that anyone would be willing to share. Thank you!
Scoti
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-09-17 02:28
The Ridenour 576 BC is not a composite. It's made of hard rubber. I personally don't have an issue with the keywork, except that it feels a bit different from other instruments I used to play. Like buying any new instrument, it takes a little time to get used to.
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
Post Edited (2009-09-17 02:28)
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-09-17 07:48
> The Ridenour 576 BC is not a composite.
I think Scoti simply meant "not wood". Some say "composite", I say "plastic" when I mean a non-wood material, be it Greenline, Hard Rubber, Resonite, ABS, Bakelite, Kevlar, Klingonite, whatever.
Is there a generic term that conveys "neither wood nor metal" in a technically correct manner?
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Ben
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-09-18 18:14
I want one of them newfgangled Klingonite clarinets! What reeds would sound best with them, realizing (of course) that the nature of the material comprising the clarinet would destroy the reed after each use. ![[rotate]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley25.gif)
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: gigaday
Date: 2009-09-18 19:00
http://www.hansonclarinets.com/Instruments/Advanced.html
or
http://www.hansonclarinets.com/Instruments/Professional.html
maybe?
Tony
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Author: pplateau
Date: 2009-09-18 22:11
I've tried most of the ones you mentioned; ended up getting a Yamaha YCL250 which feels similar to my R-13 from ergo standpoint; Use a Muncy synthetic barrel 67 mm on it. I like it the best so far.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2009-09-19 12:15
Ben, the closest single word I can think of for "non-metal/non-wood" is "polymeric". Dr. Omar, if you're reading this please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all plastics and hard rubbers can be classed as polymers.
"Composite" is certainly incorrect unless the instrument is made of something like glass-reinforced plastic ("fiberglass") or carbon fiber --- these are called "composite" because they have strands of solid/homogeneous material (fibers) embedded in a plastic resin. Hard rubber or plastic clarinets do NOT have fibers embedded in them, so they are not composite. We must always caveat our statements here, so I will state that I'm not a materials engineer nor a chemist, nor do I play either on TV.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2009-09-19 17:24
Getting in here late, haven't read carefully all above, D S comment is good, but generic . You might try "synthetic polymer" to narrow the title, or use ABS [or other| polymer being { "composited or filled or blended" et al] to be more s[pecific. I did a lot of patent searching on the mixing of polys with " extenders" back in my dark ages, its a jungle out there, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-09-19 18:25
> polymeric
How'bout simply "synthetic material". AFAIK even hard rubber is a synthetic material - it cannot be mined as such and I'm sure there are lots of patents behind its vulcanization recipe...doesn't matter whether some of the ingredients are of natural origin.
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Ben
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2009-09-19 19:33
Good point, Ben, but you are back into the broad generics, so using the best "expression" of what you are searching for, will produce an improved retrieval without a lot of "false drop". Now-a-days most documents are "fully indexed" which increases retrieval, some of probably no interest !. For "hard [hardened] rubber [synthetic/natural ] and other terms required, the addition of clarinet/oboe or sulfur/metal sulfide will be more specific. I prefer only either/or logic expression. Hope my thots may help searching. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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